I vote no. Teachers and all state employees are overpaid anyway in my opinion. They know what the salary is going to be before getting into the profession. If they
don't like it, get a real job.
don't like it, get a real job.
Teachers are overpaid?...and it isn't a real job?
What should they make? And what is your definition of a real job?
I'm always interested how people get these kind of opinions of teachers. I've got a few theory's, those same people usually hate police as well.
My wife is a elementary teacher. She works at least 12 hours per day at the school, some times 18+hours doing extra tutoring for struggling students.
She doesn't get extra pay for any of that over time. We figured out she's getting paid about $4 per hour even factoring in the time off during the summer.
She works at a extremely poor school, plus 2/3rds of the kids parents are some type of felon. They are almost all on food stampers and have active DHS cases.
This year so far, she's had 4 kid suspended, 2 have threated to kill her and other kids at the school. These are 4th graders, they are bringing bottles of alcohol/illegal drugs/prescription pills and porn mags to school every day. That's just her class! She has ZERO parent involvement, she has parents fighting with her about their kids
being put in reading intervention classes. THE KIDS CAN'T READ A 1st GRADE BOOK FFS! But the teachers are all blamed for parents failure.
The people of Oklahoma are going to have to take a real hard look and decide if we're going to support education. Teachers are leaving in droves, with even more leaving after this year. A failure to pass meaningful education funding/reform is going to drive the final nail into the coffin of Oklahoma.
I'm a state employee myself, my family is seriously considering leaving Oklahoma for Texas. We're right on the border already. My wife alone can get a $10,000 salary bonus by just going 20 miles south.
I don't hate teachers or cops,but I know a lot of people that work much harder for less money out in the heat and cold 12 months a year not 9. when teachers agree to merit based pay i'll be more inclined to support higher pay for those that earn it
Teachers don't get 3 month vacations, as you're implying here. During the summer they have to (a) spend a great deal of time after the year ends to finish up the year, which can take up to one month; (b) attend continuing education classes/seminars/conferences/etc.; and (c) spend a great deal of time preparing for the upcoming year, which typically takes more than a month. That's right, they are usually working at least full-time during the summer also.
If you've never been a teacher, how do you know anyone's else's job is "much harder"? I've worked about every manual labor job there is, and also been a teacher; and I can attest for the fact that teaching is much harder in several ways.
How do you propose we assess teacher merit? And how much should they get paid, for any given level of merit?
Sounds like you should make the jump!
The reason your wife's hourly wage is so poor, is because of the U.S. Dept. of Education. All the unfunded mandates they require of states is a violation of the 10th Amendment. The federal government has no business mandating curriculum, test scores, teacher standards or anything else, but they do it anyway. If all the education unions and associations got together with the states and demanded the DoE be abolished, teachers lives would improve and education might actually get better.
first I have been a Teacher, the majority of men in my family are/were cops and the majority of the women are /were teachers. I know a little about both. and the teachers were /are off in the summer ,some get part time jobs some don't.
run duct work in an attic in august, roof a house in july, lots of jobs much harder than teaching that pay less. as long as their are teachers unions the insist on equal pay for teachers regardless performance I'll never support more taxes for education
it is easy to assess performance by if their students make the grade or not
[/QUOTE]I did not see where you could be paid to collect signature for the ballot, please provide a direct link.[/QUOTE]
i will get the link up with the date and locations for the training sessions when i get to work in a bit
the pay is tiered also. once the sigs go over 1000, it's 5 bucks a line!
i will get the link up with the date and locations for the training sessions when i get to work in a bit
the pay is tiered also. once the sigs go over 1000, it's 5 bucks a line!
now that you have figured out how to find a little evidence, prove what impact it has on the state question.
I saw that information, but it would be better to know who is paying and what benefit it is for them.
I did not see where you could be paid to collect signature for the ballot, please provide a direct link.[/QUOTE]
i will get the link up with the date and locations for the training sessions when i get to work in a bit
the pay is tiered also. once the sigs go over 1000, it's 5 bucks a line![/QUOTE]
I did not see where you could be paid to collect signature for the ballot, please provide a direct link.[/QUOTE]
i will get the link up with the date and locations for the training sessions when i get to work in a bit
the pay is tiered also. once the sigs go over 1000, it's 5 bucks a line![/QUOTE]
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