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    I keep reading post over and over that our military will refuse to confiscate our guns if ordered and sorry to say I 'm afraid this might not be true. Just go to you tube and type in "Katrina gun confiscation" and watch a few of these videos, some of these National Guard Soldiers were from Oklahoma. In one of these videos a Marine Sargent was asked what he would do if ordered and after a long hesitation admitted he would follow orders. I'm a Vet myself and I hate to think what I might have done when given that order. If there are any National Guard members on this forum that served during Katrina I would like to hear their side of what happened in New Orleans.
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    I was fortunate enough to be activated to Ft Chaffee for evacuee assistance but from what I saw and experienced there, I don't envy those who were in New Orleans. I'd be interested to hear some first-hand accounts, as well. I guess I didn't realize that there were Federally activated personnel participating in those confiscations. I thought they were all state and local law enforcement.
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    Once people started dying. Most of the soldiers would change their minds.

    Thay had zero opposition in NO.

    It will not be the same next time.
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    All those cops and military people who say they wouldn't do it are on kidding themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Surveyor1653 View Post
    I was fortunate enough to be activated to Ft Chaffee for evacuee assistance but from what I saw and experienced there, I don't envy those who were in New Orleans. I'd be interested to hear some first-hand accounts, as well. I guess I didn't realize that there were Federally activated personnel participating in those confiscations. I thought they were all state and local law enforcement.
    One video I watched was an interview with a SSgt from Utah National Guard and he refused to take part in the confiscation but also said the Regular USArmy was also there to aid NO Police which is totally illegal I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukester View Post
    All those cops and military people who say they wouldn't do it are on kidding themselves.
    I agree.

    Short of an out right civilian insurrection where folks are picking sides for or agin' the goobermint the police and NG will do exactly what they are told. Training and organizational culture will insure that they will obey orders. There may be the odd man out of a 1000 that says NO! But he'll be exception.
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    I am former army and I took an oath to defend the constitution. Taking people's legally owned guns goes against the constitution. I don't care what orders they were given. You cannot be held liable for disobeying an order if it goes against the constitution. I still can't believe those soldiers did that. They knew it was wrong and did it anyway. That still upsets me.

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    When they actually have to kill american citizens, they will change their minds FAST.

    It is in the plan, that way they can bring in UN troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddog1 View Post
    When they actually have to kill american citizens, they will change their minds FAST.

    It is in the plan, that way they can bring in UN troops.
    I hope you are right, I loves me some UN troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukester View Post
    All those cops and military people who say they wouldn't do it are on kidding themselves.
    I believe so as well, they will brand the people domestic terrorist and thats all the masses in the armed forces will need. Its unfortunate but it will happen or could.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwguy25 View Post
    I believe so as well, they will brand the people domestic terrorist and thats all the masses in the armed forces will need. Its unfortunate but it will happen or could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyKane1 View Post
    I am former army and I took an oath to defend the constitution. Taking people's legally owned guns goes against the constitution. I don't care what orders they were given. You cannot be held liable for disobeying an order if it goes against the constitution. I still can't believe those soldiers did that. They knew it was wrong and did it anyway. That still upsets me.
    BlahBlahBlahBlah.....I'm ex army too and I know all about following orders. They will take our guns all the same.
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    I hope you are right, I loves me some UN troops.
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    Sadly, I think Dukester is right. Matt Bracken has just published another excellent article which I'd linked in another forum, but because it's salient, I'll include it here, as well. It's entitled "Dear Mr. Security Agent" and is bone-chilling reading:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwguy25 View Post
    I believe so as well, they will brand the people domestic terrorist and thats all the masses in the armed forces will need. Its unfortunate but it will happen or could.
    I am already branded a domestic terrorist, and a racist.
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