Charleston Shooting

[Coded-Dude]

Surprised this hasn't gone up yet. Thoughts any prayers to the victims as well as their friends and family. The shooter is in custody.

When a gunman opened fire inside Charleston’s Emanuel AME Church Wednesday, shooting worshipers gathered for a mid-week prayer meeting, it was as though history repeated itself.

This historic congregation, the oldest of its kind in the South, had already seen more than its fair share of tumult and hate. It was founded by worshipers fleeing racism and burned to the ground for its connection with a thwarted slave revolt. For years, its meetings were conducted in secret to evade laws that banned all-black services. It was jolted by an earthquake in 1886. Civil rights luminaries spoke from its pulpit and led marches from its steps. For nearly 200 years it had been the site of struggle, resistance and change.


On Wednesday, the church was a crime scene - the street outside aglow with the flashing red lights of police cars and echoing with the screech of sirens. Nine people had been killed there, including the church’s pastor, the Rev. Clementa Pinckney.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...g-is-another-painful-chapter-in-long-history/

Obama take advantage...

“We don’t have all the facts, but we do know that, once again, innocent people were killed in part because someone who wanted to inflict harm had no trouble getting their hands on a gun,” Obama said, joined at the podium by Vice President Joe Biden. “But let’s be clear: At some point, we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries. It doesn’t happen in other places with this kind of frequency. And it is in our power to do something about it.”

“It is in our power to do something about it,” Obama said. “I say that recognizing the politics in this town foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. But it would be wrong for us not to acknowledge it. At some point it’s going to be important for the American people to come to grips with it, and for us to be able to shift how we think about the issue of gun violence collectively.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ce-doesnt-happen-in-other-advanced-countries/

 

[dennishoddy]

Really? This mass violence doesn't happen anywhere else?
I'm guessing he haven't heard of Darfur, Sudan, or Rwanda?
Of course he hasn't heard of ICIS either.

 

[TedKennedy]

Good thing shooter didn't try that crap in our church. I'm guessing 10% of the men there carry.

 

[Wheel Gun]

My prayers go to the families of the lost. Those killed are with Christ now.

I choose to ignore anyone that manipulates this situation for political gain.

 

[KOPBET]

Dear phucktard Obama, yes he had no trouble getting his hands on a gun...

the lad was given the .45 by his dad for his 21st birthday (according to reports.)

(and it's NOT a podium)

 

[Okie4570]

Sad deal and prayers for those involved. As far as the POTUS................ I guess the Norway shooting/bombing in 2011 didn't happen? I would consider Norway "advanced".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-14266815

 

[DavidMcmillan]

Get Ready..... this will obviously become another opportunity to reach for all the bumper sticker calls for change. Let's assume that the father was legally able to purchase the gun, and it was given as a gift to his son. There doesn't appear to be any reasons, at this point, that the gift was improper. If all this is true, then an obvious point of attack will be the transfer of the gun as a gift, without "universal" background check. Folks in the State of Washington, as reported, are already dealing with the "transfer" of firearms to friends, family, etc., since the recent passage of their UBC laws.

We need to be able to respond with sound logic, understanding, and I'm afraid a willingness to accept, at some point, some level of compromise.

There have been too many people who should not have had access to any form of weapon, commit acts of violence. That cannot be ignored much longer without some changes to the freedom we enjoy.

The problem seems to be in the way we address the topic of mental illness. We do not allow private medical information to be shared with the proper authorities, so therefore, it is fairly easy for someone to purchase a firearm, who if the truth was known about their mental condition, they would be prohibited.

Those of us in Moore, know that the Vaughn Foods beheading was committed with a kitchen knife. And other recent acts have been committed with knives, axes, and hammers, but that will be ignored, and the fight will continue to be against gun ownership.

There will ultimately be changes. We need to be able to be part of the development of those changes. I'm not giving up, just being realistic.

 

[dennishoddy]

I choose to ignore anyone that manipulates this situation for political gain.

He's a pretty sick person that will use this tragedy to further a political agenda.
He could have said he was sorry for the families, and came back 24 hours later to express his political agenda.
The crime scene isn't even cleaned up yet, and obama is walking in their blood.

 

[TwoForFlinching]

Get Ready..... this will obviously become another opportunity to reach for all the bumper sticker calls for change. Let's assume that the father was legally able to purchase the gun, and it was given as a gift to his son. There doesn't appear to be any reasons, at this point, that the gift was improper. If all this is true, then an obvious point of attack will be the transfer of the gun as a gift, without "universal" background check. Folks in the State of Washington, as reported, are already dealing with the "transfer" of firearms to friends, family, etc., since the recent passage of their UBC laws.

We need to be able to respond with sound logic, understanding, and I'm afraid a willingness to accept, at some point, some level of compromise.

There have been too many people who should not have had access to any form of weapon, commit acts of violence. That cannot be ignored much longer without some changes to the freedom we enjoy.

The problem seems to be in the way we address the topic of mental illness. We do not allow private medical information to be shared with the proper authorities, so therefore, it is fairly easy for someone to purchase a firearm, who if the truth was known about their mental condition, they would be prohibited.

Those of us in Moore, know that the Vaughn Foods beheading was committed with a kitchen knife. And other recent acts have been committed with knives, axes, and hammers, but that will be ignored, and the fight will continue to be against gun ownership.

There will ultimately be changes. We need to be able to be part of the development of those changes. I'm not giving up, just being realistic.

America trusts doctors with their lives... but not with the information of whether they own guns or not. Doctors, in Oklahoma no-less, tried to advance this notion some odd 18 months ago and were hit with a swift and absolute stone wall. There are no simple answers to the problem. Life is inherently dangerous. No amount of litigation can protect a life. It's something that is taken care of in the home, at an early age. I suspect these shootings wouldn't be as widespread as they are if our country wasn't raising a generation of *******.

 

[}BuLL]

Thoughts & prayers for the families.