The hypocrisy of the "climate change leaders"

[doctorjj]

Of course consensus is sometimes wrong. Literally nobody has argued otherwise. I'm glad you're now admitting to the important role of consensus in science.

http://www.randombio.com/consensus.html

Read this.

 

[doctorjj]

It's the opinion of these people...some of the most well-trained scientific skeptics in the world, so I'm sure they'll welcome you're rebuttal:
Mark Boslough, Physicist
David Morrison, Director of the Carl Sagan Center for the Study of Life in the Universe, at the SETI Institute
Bill Nye, CEO the Planetary Society
Ann Druyan, Writer/producer; CEO, Cosmos Studios
Ken Frazier, Editor, Skeptical Inquirer
Barry Karr, Exec Director, Committee for Skeptical Inquiry
Amardeo Sarma, Committee for Skeptical Inquiry Executive Council, Chairman GWUP (Germany)
Sir Harold Kroto, Nobel Prize in Chemistry
Ronald A. Lindsay, President & CEO Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and Center for Inquiry
Kenneth R. Miller, Professor of Biology, Brown University
Christopher C. French, Dept of Psychology, Goldsmiths University of London
Daniel C. Dennett, Center for Cognitive Studies, Tufts University
Massimo Pigliucci, Professor of Philosophy at CUNY-City College
Douglas Hofstadter, Director, The Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University
Stephen Barrett, Co-founder of the National Council Against Health Fraud (NCAHF), and the webmaster of Quackwatch
Scott O. Lilienfeld, Professor, Department of Psychology, Emory University
Terence Hines, Dept of Psychology, Pace University
James Randi, President James Randi Educational Foundation
Seth Shostak, Senior Astronomer and Director of the Center for SETI Research
Joe Nickell, Senior Research Fellow, Committee for Skeptical Inquiry
Henri Broch, Physicist, Emeritus, University Nice Sophia Antipolis, France
Eugenie C. Scott, Chair, Advisory Council, National Center for Science Education
Edzard Ernst, Professor of Medicine, Emeritus, University of Exeter, UK
Indre Viskontas, Cognitive Neuroscientist, Host Inquiring Minds Podcast
David J. Helfand, Professor of Astronomy, Columbia University
Mario Mendez-Acosta, Journalist, Science Writer, Mexico City
Cornelis de Jager, Astrophysicist, Past President, International Council for Science
Sanal Edamaruku, President, Rationalist International
Loren Pankratz, Psychologist, Portland VA Medical Center, Retired
Sandra Blakeslee, Science Writer
Benjamin Radford, Deputy Editor of the Skeptical Inquirer Magazine
David Thomas, Physicist and Mathematician
Stuart D. Jordan, NASA Astrophysicist, Emeritus
David H. Gorski, Cancer Surgeon, Wayne State University School of Medicine
Anthony R. Pratkanis, Professor of Psychology, UC @Santa Cruz
Jan Willem Nienhuys, Mathematician, Waalre, The Netherlands
Susan Blackmore, Psychologist, Visiting Professor at the University of Plymouth
Ken Feder, Anthropology, Central Connecticut State University
Jill Tarter, Bernard M. Oliver Chair, SETI Institute
Richard Saunders, JREF Million Dollar Challenge Committee, Producer - The Skeptic Zone Podcast
Jay Pasachoff, Field Memorial Professor of Astronomy, Williams College
Lawrence M. Krauss, Director, The ASU Origins Project, Arizona State University
Barbara Forrest, Philosophy, Southeastern Louisiana University
Kimball Atwood, Physician, Newton, MA
James Alcock, Psychologist, Glendon College, York University, Toronto, Canada
Massimo Polidoro, Science writer, author, Executive Director CICAP, Italy
E.C. Krupp, Director, Griffith Observatory
Dick Smith, Film Producer, Publisher, Australia
Thomas R. Casten, Chair, Recycled Energy Development, LLC
Willem Betz, MD, Professor of Medicine, Univ. of Brussels
Steven Novella, MD, assistant professor of neurology, Yale Univ. School of Medicine
Richard Dawkins, Charles Simonyi Professor of the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University emeritus
Stephan Lewandowsky, cognitive psychologist at the School of Experimental Psychology at the University of Bristol
Naomi Oreskes, geologist turned historian of science at Harvard University
James Powell, geochemist and executive Director at the National Physical Science Consortium
Stuart Vyse, psychologist and author
Donald Prothero, paleontologist and geologist associated with the National History Museum of Los Angeles
John Cook, Climate Communication Fellow for the Global Change Institute at the University of Queensland, Australia
Cornelis de Jager, Dutch Astronomer, Royal Inst. Sea Research, Texel
Luis Alfonso Gámez, journalist, the Magonia blog, Spain
Felix Ares de Blas, Professor of Computer Science, Univ. of Basque, Spain
John R. Mashey, computer scientist/executive at Bell Labs
Julia Offe, neurobiologist and science journalist

Appeal to authority. How Sophomoric, but that's essentially what thinking a consensus is somehow important, so I guess I'm not surprised.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

There was once consensus that the Earth was flat.

Yeah, that "consensus" was based on wild-assed assumptions, mostly religious based. Not on thousands of peer-reviewed scientific studies.

 

[YukonGlocker]

http://www.randombio.com/consensus.html

Read this.

I've read it. It's a total conflation of consensus if evidence and consensus of opinion (based solely an authority). With climate change, we're talking about consensus of evidence. Try again.

 

[YukonGlocker]

Appeal to authority. How Sophomoric, but that's essentially what thinking a consensus is somehow important, so I guess I'm not surprised.

If those skeptics are wrong in that article, please do show us how.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

http://www.randombio.com/consensus.html

Read this.

I can only assume that's some kind of joke.

Did you read the article?
Do you have any idea who wrote the article?
Do you know it's the same nut-job that declared in 2003 that global warming was over and the earth was entering a cooling phase?

Wow, that would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

 

[doctorjj]

I've read it. It's a total conflation of consensus if evidence and consensus of opinion (based solely an authority). With climate change, we're talking about consensus of evidence. Try again.

Consensus of evidence or opinion has no bearing on the validity of any given assertion as has been proven over and over throughout history.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Sure, sport, sure. That was from the Abstract of a paper written by 10 people with more PhDs and Doctorates than you could shake a stick at. But, you know, facts. When they mean nothing to you, you can say the idiotic stuff you say.

John Cook, PhD in Cognitive Science from the University of Western Australia.
Naomi Oarekes, PhD degree in Geological Research from Stanford.
Peter Doran, Ph.D. is Professor of Geology and Geophysics at Louisiana State University.
Bart Verheggen, MSc in environmental sciences from Wageningen University (Netherlands) and a PhD in Atmospheric Chemistry from York University (Canada).

And on and on...if you had at least a room temp IQ, you would be embarrassed at your own ignorance.

You're such a sweet talker!

Oh, and you haven't provided any facts yet. Are you fresh out of facts? Did you have any to begin with?

All these 'studies' you refer to are based more on assumptions than facts. Oh, for sure, these studies have statistics, etc., but the analysis provided is at best nothing more than agenda. I don't care how much of the alphabet follows someone's name, until I see facts and repeatable demonstrations on a global scale confirming their analysis, "Man Made Global Warming" and/or "Man Made Climate Change" is nothing more than a hoax.

Woody

PS: My IQ is somewhere around 135.

 

[doctorjj]

If those skeptics are wrong in that article, please do show us how.

That list of people who couldn't get into medical school? Ask them to prove me wrong if we are just going to appeal to authority.

 

[YukonGlocker]

Consensus of evidence or opinion has no bearing on the validity of any given assertion as has been proven over and over throughout history.

If you have evidence that disproves the consensus of evidence about climate change, you'll be eternally famous. I look forward to reading your evidence.