Yea the landowner is fine with us being there but she wants no one else on the property. I think I am just going to go with W.L.P and hope I dont have to get the law involved. I know what you mean about not knowing anyone with land. My co-worker is the only one I know and we just found out about it maybe two months ago? I have thought about knocking on doors to get permission but I don't know how to go about it. It seems like anytime I see a large property there is no door on it to knock on. Thanks guys for all the help and feedback on this.