seems Crimea was also a settled deal for many years until Putin decided to take it [while obumer was hiding behind the curtains in the WH] it is in fact Putin who is breaking all the treaties and bringing all this onto Russia -- all very unfortunate as if we had not had a fraudulent election that the Supreme Court failed to check - and President Trump was our president - this war would not exist.Some food for thought: the Fins have an ongoing peace treaty with Russia signed after WWII (Finland was allied with Nazi Germany). It was with the USSR and carried over to Russia after the fall of the soviets. That treaty pretty much states that the Fins will be neutral WRT Russia in perpetuity and Russia in kind and any violation of the treaty is an act of war. If they join NATO, we will see general mobilization of the Russian forces and Finland will most likely be invaded and burned to the ground. When that happens, I believe the Russians will go total war on Ukraine and burn it to the ground. Anyone who interferes will get a nuke. None of this is good.