legal way to transport weapons?

[aerodoc]

Just to be clear...from what i posted earlier. I do not have ccl. But It would be legal to have my guns in the back seat of my truck (unloaded with no ammo in the case) and put my ammo bag in the bed of the truck. Right?? Or should both gun and ammo bag be in the bed of my truck? I dont like the idea of thousands of dollars of guns in cases sliding around in the bed, knocking scopes out of wack. But i like the idea of a felony and jail even less. I keep getting conflicting replys on the subject. Most of my friends just drive to the hunting spot/range with guns and all in the back seat and think thats perfectly legal but im pretty sure its not.

 

[Quick_Draw_McGraw]

Reading the SDA isn't just a benefit to people with CCW, it has a lot of info about topics such as transporting a weapon without a CCW.

You can see the whole thing here http://www.ok.gov/osbi/documents/SDA_Lawbook_NOV_2007_2_.pdf

The part that answers your questions is...

TITLE 21 § 1289.7. Firearms in vehicles
FIREARMS IN VEHICLES
Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a
rifle, shotgun or pistol, open and unloaded, at any time. For purposes of this
section “open” means the firearm is transported in plain view, in a case designed
for carrying firearms, which case is wholly or partially visible, in a gun rack
mounted in the vehicle, in an exterior locked compartment or a trunk of a
vehicle.
Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a
rifle or shotgun concealed behind a seat of the vehicle or within the interior of
the vehicle provided the rifle or shotgun is not clip, magazine or chamber
loaded. The authority to transport a clip or magazine loaded rifle or shotgun
shall be pursuant to Section 1289.13 of this title.
Any person who is the operator of a vehicle or is a passenger in any vehicle
wherein another person who is licensed pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense
Act, Sections 1 through 26 of this act, to carry a concealed handgun and is
carrying a concealed handgun or has concealed the handgun in such vehicle,
shall not be deemed in violation of the provisions of this section provided the
licensee is in or near the vehicle.

 

[planefixr]

Rifles cannot have any ammo in the gun or magazine. Pistol mags can be loaded but not inserted. Now go and read the SDA just to reaffirm this for yourself. IANAL

 

[abinok]

Rifles cannot have any ammo in the gun or magazine. Pistol mags can be loaded but not inserted. Now go and read the SDA just to reaffirm this for yourself. IANAL

To clarify further.... detachable rifle mags loaded....ok if not inserted

 

[aerodoc]

Ive read it and cant make sense of all that legal mumbojumbo but thanks anyway i got what i needed to know.

 

[planefixr]

To clarify further.... detachable rifle mags loaded....ok if not inserted

Gotta say you are wrong on that one.

Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a
rifle or shotgun concealed behind a seat of the vehicle or within the interior of
the vehicle provided the rifle or shotgun is not clip, magazine or chamber
loaded.

 

[Wormydog1724]

Gotta say you are wrong on that one.

:
Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a
rifle or shotgun concealed behind a seat of the vehicle or within the interior of
the vehicle provided the rifle or shotgun is not clip, magazine or chamber
loaded.

That is only if you don't have your CCL right?

 

[gillman7]

To clarify further.... detachable rifle mags loaded....ok if not inserted

Gotta say you are wrong on that one.

Actually abinok is correct. The law says not mag, clip or chamber loaded. It is talking about the gun, not the ammo holding mechanism. There is nothing wrong with transporting a gun, and a loaded magazine, as long as the magazine is not inserted in the gun. The law is about the firing ability of the gun, not the presence of shooting components.

Sometimes we make this way too hard. In OK you can transport a cased gun, unloaded, no matter if you have a CCL or not. You can transport an empty Glock in a case, on your seat, in plain view, with a loaded mag in the glovebox. What you can not do is transport a Glock in a case with a loaded mag in it, even without a round chambered.

The intent and language of the law is to prevent transporting a gun that is ready to fire, or with one motion made ready to fire. That is the purpose of saying not clip or mag loaded. Not that you can not have a loaded mag in the car, it is that you can not have the mag or clip inserted, where all you have to do is chamber the round and it is ready to fire.

The only thing a CCL will allow you to do other than a non CCL is to have the mag inserted in a rifle, but still not chambered, I am not talking about a handgun here. Of course you are carrying a chamber loaded pistol. I hope some of the CCL instructors will chime in on this as well.

 

[Wormydog1724]

Actually abinok is correct. The law says not mag, clip or chamber loaded. It is talking about the gun, not the ammo holding mechanism. There is nothing wrong with transporting a gun, and a loaded magazine, as long as the magazine is not inserted in the gun. The law is about the firing ability of the gun, not the presence of shooting components.

Sometimes we make this way too hard. In OK you can transport a cased gun, unloaded, no matter if you have a CCL or not. You can transport an empty Glock in a case, on your seat, in plain view, with a loaded mag in the glovebox. What you can not do is transport a Glock in a case with a loaded mag in it, even without a round chambered.

The intent and language of the law is to prevent transporting a gun that is ready to fire, or with one motion made ready to fire. That is the purpose of saying not clip or mag loaded. Not that you can not have a loaded mag in the car, it is that you can not have the mag or clip inserted, where all you have to do is chamber the round and it is ready to fire.

The only thing a CCL will allow you to do other than a non CCL is to have the mag inserted, but still not chambered. I hope some of the CCL instructors will chime in on this as well.

This is the way I have always interpreted the law. I have my CCL so I have pistol loaded on me, shotgun magazine loaded chamber empty under seat, and/or rifle magazine loaded and inserted but chamber empty. This is the way I read it.

 

[gillman7]

This is the way I have always interpreted the law. I have my CCL so I have pistol loaded on me, shotgun magazine loaded chamber empty under seat, and/or rifle magazine loaded and inserted but chamber empty. This is the way I read it.

The only thing I might wonder about that situation is the shotgun being under the seat. I think it has to be in plain view, doesn't it?

ETA Nevermind, I just read the rest of the posts, I think you are right.

ETA again Here is the actual law that says that a CCL holder may transport a loaded, but not chambered rifle and/or shotgun.

TITLE 21 § 1289.13. Transporting a loaded firearm
TRANSPORTING A LOADED FIREARM
Except as otherwise provided by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-
Defense Act or another provision of law, it shall be unlawful to transport a
loaded pistol, rifle or shotgun in a land borne motor vehicle over a public
highway or roadway. However, a rifle or shotgun may be transported clip or
magazine loaded and not chamber loaded when transported in an exterior locked
compartment of the vehicle or trunk of the vehicle or in the interior
compartment of the vehicle notwithstanding the provisions of Section 1289.7 of
this title when the person is in possession of a valid handgun license pursuant to
the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act.