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    Arrow S&W Internal Lock Removal (Pic Heavy)

    Decided to remove the internal lock on my wife's night stand gun. This is a S&W J-Frame model 638 bodyguard. I bought the plug from a guy that sells them on S&W forums. Removal was pretty straight forward and there are YouTube videos for those that are interested in doing it yourself. I ordered a stainless plug for this J-frame and also a Blued plug for my M&P 360 that I will be doing next week.

    Start: Yes my wife has pink Crimson trace grips.


    Grips removed.


    3 side screws removed and cylinder removed. Cylinder doesn't have to be removed but I did to make cleaning it easier.


    Thumb piece removed.


    Side plate and hammer block removed.


    Close up.


    Main spring stirrup removed.


    Hammer assembly removed.


    Cylinder bolt removed.


    Close up of lock and flag to be removed.


    Flag removed.


    Lock removed.


    Plug and retainer clip.


    Plug, retainer clip installed.




    Cylinder bolt replaced.


    Hammer assembly and stirrup replaced.


    Side plate replaced.


    Finished. Note the back hole remains open from the flag. There is no replacement for that. Not a problem as your revolver should be detailed cleaned probably every 3-4 months after heavy use, carrying. I guess you could fill it if wanted.


    I am going to have a buddy blast the plug for me so that it matches the frame. Just was to excited to put it in after I received the plugs.


    Here is a link to a You Tube video doing this if want to watch it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVPYgohVCNM
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    looks good, thanks for the update.

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    As Anti-Lock Evangelist #2, I approve this thread.
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    Nice work. Do they sell the plugs in other colors?
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    looks sweet

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    I would think an external snap ring would have been smaller,lighter,more secure,and more out of the way than the retaining clip they use.

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    Nice posts. Now to get rid of that ugly cylinder release. Those triangles are ugly.

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    (I think I've been spending too much time in the S&W forum with the anti-lock crowd!!)

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    That's a good looking solution Andy! Would you mind posting a link to the guy who sells them?

    I just milled off the lug on my lock and reinstalled all the factory parts. That way it doesn't matter what position the lock is in, it can't bind up the gun.

    FWIW, removing, altering or replacing the lock does not disallow it from legal competition in IDPA, unlike some other internal mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glocktogo View Post
    That's a good looking solution Andy! Would you mind posting a link to the guy who sells them?

    I just milled off the lug on my lock and reinstalled all the factory parts. That way it doesn't matter what position the lock is in, it can't bind up the gun.

    FWIW, removing, altering or replacing the lock does not disallow it from legal competition in IDPA, unlike some other internal mods.
    You can just remove the flag and leave the lock in place, of course the lock won't work any longer. I just decided to replace the lock with the plug. I also use some of my wife's clear nail polish on the back of the little hole it leaves open to keep lint, etc., from getting in.

    The guy sells them for J, L and N frame smiths. Either in stainless or Blued. The one I received in Blue (cold Blue) needs to be re-done as some of the blueing came off.

    Here is a link to S&W forum where you can buy the plugs from "Bullseye Smith".
    http://smith-wessonforum.com/accesso...vised-add.html
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    Default Re: S&W Internal Lock Removal (Pic Heavy)

    As unpopular as the lockable S&W revolvers are, it seems like this thread could be sticky material. I know I'll reference it more than once.

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    Thanks Andy!
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    It simply cannot be overstated. The pathological need for the illusion of control outweighs all other factors in our society. Risk aversion is one of THE most powerful religions in modern day America. It is the people's shepherd. Without it, the flock would be lost.

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    Thanks for posting. I like how your test run was on your wife's gun and not yours. LOL!! I own several revolvers but only one with a lock on it and I wish i had the balls to go in there and do the changes necessary to end my worries. If only my wife had one i could practice on.

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    Personally I like mine.




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    Good information and thanks for the thread!

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