didnt the thread say broken arrow casino?
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This isn't about me. There are plenty of other people making their voice heard as well. Also, this type of stuff happens all the time across America when morons try to force unsavory enterprises into areas where they are not welcome and don't really fit with the community. Strip clubs, bars, section 8 housing, nuclear power plants, waste sites, sewage treatment plants, etc... Every day of our lives people are striving to enforce zoning laws and keep their residential neighborhoods intact.
BTW, I'd be griping about it if they wanted to plop one down in your residential area too. Since you don't live nearby... the area in which they want to build this has is completely surrounded by ONLY schools, family homes and churches. We're not talking about the next few blocks, the area I speak of is the entire 4 square miles around it. If you want to take it even further out, 90+% of the larger 16 square mile area around it is the same. The only exceptions are a few gas stations and the commercial areas on the edges of this area down Elm and Aspen. I don't subscribe to the idea that people who have bought homes in this area should just shutup and be happy that a casino is moving right in the middle of their community.
Are you FOR building a casino in a residential neighborhood?
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Now there's a legitimate complaint.
If it was a mega-gunstore, and liberals were using the same logic these guys are, (which happens constantly) then everyone here would be up in arms.
True. In fact, the intersection where they are proposing this just had stoplights put in last year. Until then it was a four way stop. Outside of the Creek Turnpike, there isn't a three or four lane road within 2 miles of this place.
From the traffic flow patterns in this area, people who want to drop three quarters in the slots instead of the toll booth will be taking some of the 2 lane, no shoulder 50 MPH roads that surround the residential neighborhoods. Recipe for disaster.
I'd think the city and/or county would respond with a "road improvement" project to install two more lanes and stop lights in the area. Which bites, IMHO - we certainly don't need to junk up that relatively quiet part of Tulsa County with casino traffic and the resultant drunk, angry, and broke drivers.
GM can you make your analogy more clear.
I'm still confused as to how a community's desire to keep their residential neighborhood intact has ANYTHING to do with 2nd Amendment rights. Explain it to me.
It's not about building a casino or personal freedom or responsibility. What primarily has people up in arms is that they don't want it located it in a purely residential area. Why do you begrudge them that position and make fun of their concerns?
You're confused because you insist on following one of several red herrings. When defending any part of our 2nd amendment rights, be it ownership, carry, etc we have to preach about personal responsibility. Well in several of the emotional rantings in this thread people speak of crime, problem gamblers, higher taxes, etc etc. I'm saying that the casino doesn't cause these problems....... people do. Many other people have stated the same thing in this thread. Even the joke of a study by the Univeristy of Illinois quotes less than 1% of gamblers being "problem gamblers." In the same sense I'm sure less than 1% of gun owners cause problems.
Don't like the traffic, noise, etc.... I get it...... again....***** away.... I feel the same way about Wal-mart and the chain restaurants Ridgehunter speaks of.
There are loads of casinos in the country now...who's got the stats to show the increase in crime and the decline in communities as a result?
Someone's got to have the numbers...or are we just being touchy feely like the libs when it comes to guns?
Someone's got to have the numbers...or are we just being touchy feely like the libs when it comes to guns?
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