Government Forcing Gas Prices Up So We Go Green?

[Nraman]

"You can't eat as much as you want and drive a big car and the rest of the world will say its OK"
BHO

Working from memory, should be close to the original.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

I don't have time to read the whole thread, so if I repeat what someone else has said, just consider this a reiteration.

"Government", or more accurately the Obama Administration, is forcing prices up and otherwise regulating industry into poverty and spending the nation into oblivion to destroy capitalism. Once capitalism has been destroyed, Obama and company believe they will be able to institute some form of Nazism(national socialism) and we'll be so hungry, so broke, so hopeless, that we'll welcome it. Obama and company will not, however, be successful unless they disarm or kill everyone who owns arms and will not capitulate.

Forcing gas prices up has nothing to do with "going green" other than the part "going green" will play in the destruction of capitalism and the economy.

Woody

Look at your rights and freedoms as what would be required to survive and be free as if there were no government. If that doesn't convince you to take a stand and protect your inalienable rights and freedoms, nothing will. If that doesn't convince you to maintain your personal sovereignty, you are already someone else's subject. If you don't secure your rights and freedoms to maintain your personal sovereignty now, it'll be too late to come to me for help when they come for you. I will already be dead because I had to stand alone. B.E.Wood

 

[LightningCrash]

Nothing to see here, he's just trying to sell his stupid book.

 

[LightningCrash]

There is no such thing as a "green" vehicle available to buy today, and there won't be as long as the so-called "green" vehicles use batteries that have to be charged with electric power generated from fossil fuels.

Something like 25% of the US power isn't from fossil fuels. It's a good start.

 

[Nraman]

Something like 25% of the US power isn't from fossil fuels. It's a good start.

No bragging points for the people that invented the nukes.
The French get almost all of their electricity from nukes, the Chinese are building them as fast as they can and I understand that now they are getting ready to start building Thorium reactors (LFTR).
In the mean time, Hanoi Jane and her friends told us that we will get a China syndrome if we build nukes. Or refineries, or produce our own oil, or anything else the Left doesn't like, which covers everything except ethanol, windmills and solar cells.

 

[justinsaneok]

Oil is a renewable resource. LOL @ the dead dinosaur idea.

With that said, it's all manipulation. All of it. Even the supposed events that are contributing to the rise in oil prices.

You can have your republicans and you can have your democrats. It doesn't matter which party is in office, the ship will continue to sink.

But that's just my opinion.

You got it mad skills! The globalist are destabilizing every oil producing country they can to drive up the price of crude and all other commodities till they get it high enough to sell the stuff we are sitting on, the most oil in the world. It does not matter Dem or Rep, they are all the same, controlled buy global elitists. Combine that with the Federal Reserve, speculation and derivatives and it is a poopstorm of misery for everyone but them.

 

[justinsaneok]

You are right, that was the reason they were pushing the so called cap and trade (for the money also)



Shell just gave up trying to get a permit in the arctic. Preventing domestic production is and has been the official policy for a long time.
If you wonder why, you might want to take a look towards the Middle East. Almost all of them have lobbies in DC and for a variety of reasons want us to be dependent in foreign oil, even though most of our imports come from Venezuela and Canada.
The Green River Basin has 2-3 trillion barrels. More in the Gulf, Alaska, everywhere. In every case, there is a "good" reason why we must not produce that oil.
While we find many reasons to prevent production, every other country in the world is doing their best to produce. We need to do some thinking here. IMHO the environmentalists are nothing but "useful idiots" in a bigger game.

We have a deal to buy saudi oil if they buy are tbills. Boy are they going to be mad when the bottom falls out of the dollar. It was made back in the 70s.

 

[Nraman]

We have a deal to buy saudi oil if they buy are tbills. Boy are they going to be mad when the bottom falls out of the dollar. It was made back in the 70s.

The Chinese are also pushing us to keep the value of the dollar up. OTOH the Chinese tend to look for long term goals and whatever they are, they can't be good for us.

 

[JD8]

How about the lack of new offshore drilling permits since the BP spill? Can't say that isn't affecting the world supply AND speculation....and causing many drilling resources to be moved elsewhere.

We don't need them, especially with all the finds here in the U.S. like in the Bakken shale. I know for a fact it's not affecting the supply, once again, go talk to the boys in Cushing.

 

[ttown]

I hear in OKC they are requiring a device on your electric in some areas. My GF sister complains that they can't control heat/air and it's been to cold this winter (they didn't have a choice).

I told her welcome to 1984 what is being put into place to save energy sound good but what's the real agenda? IMO it's to ration energy (carbon footprint), wait and see it won't be a couple years they just need to gear up and include everyone.

I hear if your rich it won't affect you much since you can buy credit from other companies or people.