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The reason the gov't wants to ban this ammo now is strictly financial. They lost the lawsuit, correct. The result of that lawsuit is the the .gov has to pay $0.14/round to Liberty ammo for every round of M855 sold until the year 2027. If the .gov bans sale to the public then overnight Liberty ammo's M855 sales dry up to basically nothing since the gov certainly isn't going to buy it anymore. Not after being sued by the company. The government at that point just basically pays $0.14/round more for any ammo they buy that was deemed to be infringing upon Liberty's patent.

If this legislation passes don't expect to ever have it repealed, like taxes once it's there it will stay.
 

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The reason the gov't wants to ban this ammo now is strictly financial. They lost the lawsuit, correct. The result of that lawsuit is the the .gov has to pay $0.14/round to Liberty ammo for every round of M855 sold until the year 2027. If the .gov bans sale to the public then overnight Liberty ammo's M855 sales dry up to basically nothing since the gov certainly isn't going to buy it anymore. Not after being sued by the company. The government at that point just basically pays $0.14/round more for any ammo they buy that was deemed to be infringing upon Liberty's patent.

If this legislation passes don't expect to ever have it repealed, like taxes once it's there it will stay.

This is the PERFECT justification to have an injunction issued. It's a pure conflict of interest and completely unethical.
 

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Fed Gov is our worst enemy.

Because we allow it and use the opportunity to bend each other over.

The reason the gov't wants to ban this ammo now is strictly financial. They lost the lawsuit, correct. The result of that lawsuit is the the .gov has to pay $0.14/round to Liberty ammo for every round of M855 sold until the year 2027. If the .gov bans sale to the public then overnight Liberty ammo's M855 sales dry up to basically nothing since the gov certainly isn't going to buy it anymore. Not after being sued by the company. The government at that point just basically pays $0.14/round more for any ammo they buy that was deemed to be infringing upon Liberty's patent.

If this legislation passes don't expect to ever have it repealed, like taxes once it's there it will stay.

m855a1 uses a totally different projectile than the SS109 projectile used in the M855. I'm pretty sure the projectile used in M855A1 is lead free.
 

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If this legislation passes don't expect to ever have it repealed, like taxes once it's there it will stay.

Not legislation. Legislation would be easier to stop. It's regulatory agency policy that has the force of law. Bureaucrats decide it will be that way and so it is. Congress can and should intervene. Just sad that it is necessary.
 

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Not legislation. Legislation would be easier to stop. It's regulatory agency policy that has the force of law. Bureaucrats decide it will be that way and so it is. Congress can and should intervene. Just sad that it is necessary.

This. Go read the article I posted; in addition to not complying with the enabling statute, it's also an outright reversal of previous regulatory policy, which is frowned upon by judicial courts.

This proposed regulation isn't final, and even if it is implemented, has serious flaws that render it subject to attack through the judiciary. Let's give the regulatory process (Notice and Comment Rulemaking) and the judicial process a chance to work before we take to arms.
 

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