is the world coming to an end?

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

A border patrolman was killed with a gun traced to F&F I believe

Two F&F guns were found at the location where the border agent was killed. The guns have never been shown to be the weapon that killed the agent. The Mexican gangs have plenty of weapons of their own. The 1700~ F&F guns isn't going to make a difference. And, also, haven't we been told, many times, that guns don't kill people, people kill people. Funny how in this case people want to blame the gun.

 

[ChuckC]

Two F&F guns were found at the location where the border agent was killed. The guns have never been shown to be the weapon that killed the agent. The Mexican gangs have plenty of weapons of their own. The 1700~ F&F guns isn't going to make a difference. And, also, haven't we been told, many times, that guns don't kill people, people kill people. Funny how in this case people want to blame the gun.

No, actually I'm more inclined to blame whoever pulled the trigger and anyone instrumental in running guns to Mexican drug cartels.

 

[turkeyrun]

Not blaming the gun but the illegal actions of what is supposed to be our senior law enforcement official and our (sic) Commander-in-Chief, which resulted in the loss of an American life while they were trying to blame other honest Americans for the violence of Mexican drug lords.

But, it happened a long time ago and is really of no significance anymore, just ask the VP.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

Not blaming the gun but the illegal actions of what is supposed to be our senior law enforcement official and our (sic) Commander-in-Chief, which resulted in the loss of an American life while they were trying to blame other honest Americans for the violence of Mexican drug lords.

But, it happened a long time ago and is really of no significance anymore, just ask the VP.

So, dozens of ATF agents were involved in an illegal operation? Was it illegal under Bush when it was called Operation Wide Receiver? Resulted in the loss of an American life? Really? That's pathetic. The 5 men that engaged agent Brian Terry were almost certainly part of a well armed gang that robbed drug dealers. They had, and have, weapons outside of the F&F guns. And the gun that killed Terry has never been shown to be a F&F gun. Keep banging that drum.

 

[turkeyrun]

You seem to think the specific gun is what makes the difference, not an illegal operation run by OUR government, regardless of what the operation was called. An American was killed on American soil by Mexicans and guns from the illegal operation were present.


drum banged!

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

You seem to think the specific gun is what makes the difference, not an illegal operation run by OUR government, regardless of what the operation was called. An American was killed on American soil by Mexicans and guns from the illegal operation were present.


drum banged!

Please show how it was an illegal operation. An American was murdered. The gun that killed him did not come from F&F. Other Americans have been killed by Mexican gangs. You're implying that F&F somehow contributed to the death of Agent Terry. You have zero proof, but I don't think you care. It's just talking points to you.

 

[farmerbyron]

Please show how it was an illegal operation. An American was murdered. The gun that killed him did not come from F&F. Other Americans have been killed by Mexican gangs. You're implying that F&F somehow contributed to the death of Agent Terry. You have zero proof, but I don't think you care. It's just talking points to you.

If you can't see the hypocrisy in pushing this
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/03/obama_blames_us_for_gun_violence_in_mexico_pushes_for_gun_control.html

"Most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States," President Obama said during a speech at Mexico's Anthropology Museum. "I think many of you know that in America, our Constitution guarantees our individual right to bear arms. And as president, I swore an oath to uphold that right, and I always will."

"But at the same time, as I’ve said in the United States, I will continue to do everything in my power to pass common-sense reforms that keep guns out of the hands of criminals and dangerous people. That can save lives here in Mexico and back home in the United States. It’s the right thing to do," Obama added.

While having ran F&F, I'm not sure you can be helped.




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[Cinaet]

Yes, it's coming to an end. Many times. The sky falls a couple of times a day right here on OSA.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

If you can't see the hypocrisy in pushing this
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/05/03/obama_blames_us_for_gun_violence_in_mexico_pushes_for_gun_control.html


While having ran F&F, I'm not sure you can be helped.




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That's so utterly ridiculous I'm having a hard deciding if you're for real. For your sake, I'm going to assume you aren't.

 

[loudshirt]

Just my own opinion, Hillary is going to get blamed/take the blame for the whole thing since she is no longer the Sec of State. Obama will be cleared, and it will clear the way for Chelsea to start her run into politics.