What's up with being on a first name basis with this mass muderer? Tim? For real?
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What's up with being on a first name basis with this mass muderer? Tim? For real?
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Some guys have all the luck....
If you watch "Oklahoma City" McVeigh (in his own words) seems to over stress that it was he, and he alone, that accomplished this feat. He gives some credit to Nichols for logistics type stuff and pretty much none to Michael Fortier. This kind of disturbed me that it just seemed like he was lying. He also assembled the bomb in record time (3 hours). A bomb that they claim was equivalent to 5 tons. It also all went off without a hitch except for his monumental stupidity in covering his tracks and/or keeping under the radar. Which also reinforced to me, that he wasn't that smart. This was an idiot who worked menial fast food jobs after the Army and suddenly he's an evil genius?
This documentary wasn't anything but the facts. There were no opinions either way. I came away from it feeling there had to be a lot more to the story. And trust me, I'm as skeptical as they come when it comes to conspiracy theories. I don't think the FBI or ATF was in on it, I just think there is more to it.
This documentary wasn't anything but the facts. There were no opinions either way. I came away from it feeling there had to be a lot more to the story. And trust me, I'm as skeptical as they come when it comes to conspiracy theories. I don't think the FBI or ATF was in on it, I just think there is more to it.
How could they be when we've never landed there?
You're sure about that? I was in the checkout line at the grocery awhile back and saw they had pics of a B-29 wreckage on the moon.
You might want to check your sources.
You're right; I just rechecked. NASA hired Stanley Kubrick to film the landing. Of course, perfectionist that he is, he insisted upon filming on location.
"This documentary wasn't anything but the facts."
With the state of media these days, maybe we should amend your statement to say; 'This documentary wasn't anything but the facts that bring the highest viewership'.
The family made a statement. Says their son is mentally ill and the FBI basically held his hand to help make the bomb. They say the paid informant the FBI had is a drug dealer and cleaned up his record.
http://newsok.com/article/5560334?u...k&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=NIC-Facebook
Family members of Jerry Drake Varnell issued a statement late Tuesday night regarding his involvement in Saturday's attempted bombing of a downtown Oklahoma City bank building.
"We as a family are extremely distraught about this situation with our son Jerry Drake Varnell, but what the public must understand is that he is a paranoid schizophrenic and is extremely susceptible to different types of ideology that normal people would deem immoral. Underneath his condition, he is a sweet-hearted person and we are extremely shocked that this event has happened. However, what truly has us flabbergasted is the fact that the FBI knew he was schizophrenic. The State of Oklahoma found him mentally incompetent and we, his parents have legal guardianship over him by the Court. These documents are sealed from the public, which is why no news media outlet has been able to obtain them. The FBI clearly knew that he was schizophrenic because they have gathered every ounce of information on him. Reading the criminal complaint against him has brought us great pause due to the numerous lies from the informant. We do not have an underground bunker! We built our home a few years ago and bought a storage container, as we use it for a storm shelter. We only recently pushed dirt up around it to make it safe. The building is used for storage and is NOT a bunker full of food and supplies, in fact the doors close from the outside. It has neither electricity nor anything that would make it habitable.
What the public should be looking at is the fact that the FBI gave our son the means to make this happen. He has no job, no money, no vehicle, and no driver’s license, due to the fact that he is schizophrenic and we; his parents do everything we can possible to keep him safe and functional. The mental health system has consistently failed us due to the lack of establishments and health care coverage for a person like him. He has attended college and just enrolled in welding school. His medications allow him to be somewhat functional but he will never be completely functional in life. His brain does not work like a normal person and never will due to the nature of his mental illness. He has suffered through countless serious full-blown schizophrenic delusional episodes and he has been put in numerous mental hospitals since he was 16 years old. The FBI came and picked him up from our home, they gave him a vehicle, gave him a fake bomb, and every means to make this happen none of which he had access to on his own. We know who their informant is and what the public should know is that he is that a drug-dealing criminal. On June 15, 2017, Jerry’s Father told the criminal informant “that he was not allowed back on our property and if he returned we would have him arrested for trespassing and drugs”. Apparently, he continued to sneak onto our residence. The FBI paid him to continue this operation and I believe they have cleared his criminal record.
The FBI should have filed conspiracy on our son and had him committed to a mental institution. They should not have aided and abetted a paranoid schizophrenic to commit this act. There are many more facts that I will not make public that will support my son and the disturbing acts made by the FBI.
I realize that many will say my son could have found another person to commit this act. Yet, any person that has access to the materials and the state of mind necessary to bomb a building would not have any need for a schizophrenic who has no resources to contribute. Schizophrenics always have conspiracy theories and feels everyone is out to get them. They trust no one and there is no doubt in my mind that this informant began this hate against the government and my son followed along because others easily influence him. There is no person in his life that has even heard anything about hatred for the government and we have all been shocked by the event.
We ask all news media outlets to please respect our privacy. Do not fly helicopters over our home and stalk us at our gates for a story, we are trying our very best to comfort each other because this is a devastating loss for our family. We do not need to be bombarded by reporters who only want to omit important facts of this event. We understand the public wants to know how this could possibly happen. We simply ask them to look at the facts of the case and ask why the FBI made this happen. He is our son and he is a brother and loved one no matter what he has done. We have unconditional love for him, we are heart broken by this event and wish we had been made aware by the FBI, and we would have committed him into a mental institution for help."
Sincerely,
Clifford and Melonie Varnell
http://newsok.com/article/5560334?u...k&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=NIC-Facebook
Family members of Jerry Drake Varnell issued a statement late Tuesday night regarding his involvement in Saturday's attempted bombing of a downtown Oklahoma City bank building.
"We as a family are extremely distraught about this situation with our son Jerry Drake Varnell, but what the public must understand is that he is a paranoid schizophrenic and is extremely susceptible to different types of ideology that normal people would deem immoral. Underneath his condition, he is a sweet-hearted person and we are extremely shocked that this event has happened. However, what truly has us flabbergasted is the fact that the FBI knew he was schizophrenic. The State of Oklahoma found him mentally incompetent and we, his parents have legal guardianship over him by the Court. These documents are sealed from the public, which is why no news media outlet has been able to obtain them. The FBI clearly knew that he was schizophrenic because they have gathered every ounce of information on him. Reading the criminal complaint against him has brought us great pause due to the numerous lies from the informant. We do not have an underground bunker! We built our home a few years ago and bought a storage container, as we use it for a storm shelter. We only recently pushed dirt up around it to make it safe. The building is used for storage and is NOT a bunker full of food and supplies, in fact the doors close from the outside. It has neither electricity nor anything that would make it habitable.
What the public should be looking at is the fact that the FBI gave our son the means to make this happen. He has no job, no money, no vehicle, and no driver’s license, due to the fact that he is schizophrenic and we; his parents do everything we can possible to keep him safe and functional. The mental health system has consistently failed us due to the lack of establishments and health care coverage for a person like him. He has attended college and just enrolled in welding school. His medications allow him to be somewhat functional but he will never be completely functional in life. His brain does not work like a normal person and never will due to the nature of his mental illness. He has suffered through countless serious full-blown schizophrenic delusional episodes and he has been put in numerous mental hospitals since he was 16 years old. The FBI came and picked him up from our home, they gave him a vehicle, gave him a fake bomb, and every means to make this happen none of which he had access to on his own. We know who their informant is and what the public should know is that he is that a drug-dealing criminal. On June 15, 2017, Jerry’s Father told the criminal informant “that he was not allowed back on our property and if he returned we would have him arrested for trespassing and drugs”. Apparently, he continued to sneak onto our residence. The FBI paid him to continue this operation and I believe they have cleared his criminal record.
The FBI should have filed conspiracy on our son and had him committed to a mental institution. They should not have aided and abetted a paranoid schizophrenic to commit this act. There are many more facts that I will not make public that will support my son and the disturbing acts made by the FBI.
I realize that many will say my son could have found another person to commit this act. Yet, any person that has access to the materials and the state of mind necessary to bomb a building would not have any need for a schizophrenic who has no resources to contribute. Schizophrenics always have conspiracy theories and feels everyone is out to get them. They trust no one and there is no doubt in my mind that this informant began this hate against the government and my son followed along because others easily influence him. There is no person in his life that has even heard anything about hatred for the government and we have all been shocked by the event.
We ask all news media outlets to please respect our privacy. Do not fly helicopters over our home and stalk us at our gates for a story, we are trying our very best to comfort each other because this is a devastating loss for our family. We do not need to be bombarded by reporters who only want to omit important facts of this event. We understand the public wants to know how this could possibly happen. We simply ask them to look at the facts of the case and ask why the FBI made this happen. He is our son and he is a brother and loved one no matter what he has done. We have unconditional love for him, we are heart broken by this event and wish we had been made aware by the FBI, and we would have committed him into a mental institution for help."
Sincerely,
Clifford and Melonie Varnell
Like I said, useful idiot.
Did the FBI protect us from a terrorist attack perpetrated by a competent and legitimate threat, or did they create the illusion of a terrorist attack in order to give the appearance they are protecting us?
Did the FBI protect us from a terrorist attack perpetrated by a competent and legitimate threat, or did they create the illusion of a terrorist attack in order to give the appearance they are protecting us?
OK, thanks.
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