Heard him also, wanted to call in and ask for a demonstration. He said he was a life long shooter. Rubber bullets yet they hurt will not incapacitate a armed criminal to the point that they can not return fire. The criminal no matter how experienced only has to get lucky with one shot and your dead. Knowing Police have to fire two rubber bullets first even if hit it is not going to stop return fire with leathal ammunition. Glad I'm not a cop in these times with their hands tied behind their backs, one job I do not want to do. In todays environment they can't even protect theirselves.