I guess I wasn't as clear with my post as I should have been. I appreciate the suggestions but I'm not exactly a newby with a 1911. When I said I didn't shoot too well I meant that my old eyes weren't what they used to be. I have the mechanics down fairly well and can hold a respectable group. I know how to run a 1911. I was hoping for some feedback on the specifics of why you do or don't like a particular gun. In your opinion (from personal experience) , why is the Springfield better than the Kimber? Is there an inferior part or design flaw that makes one gun unrealiable? Does Springfield have better quality control than Kimber? Like I said, I would like some feedback from guys that do magic with the pistols.