Shooting at Northern Arizona University This Moning - Flagstaff

[Hobbes]

The shooter, contrary to some reports, did not single out Christians. One of the survivors said, "He had us get up, one by one, and asked us what our religions were. The shooter said (they) would only feel pain for a couple of seconds, and that (they) would be with God soon. And then he shot them." He shot them no matter the response. No one was spared because they said they were not Christian.

You're harshing my victim mentality dude.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

What's your solution Ace? Please show at least some causal link to the crimes in question.

Never said, nor inferred, that I have, or that anyone has, a solution. I was simply pointing out that a mass/school shooting is nothing new.

 

[SMS]

Nothing new? Of course.

But in the realm of current events and the renewed push/call for gun control it is perfect timing. The drive by media and aghast soccer moms will hear "another school shooting" on the heels of the last one. Never let a good crisis go to waste.

I doesn't matter one bit how many were killed and how frequent they are.

 

[OKCHunter]

The common elements are nut case, weapon (of any kind), and gun free zones. The low hanging fruit toward the solution is to eliminate gun free zones.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

Nothing new? Of course.

But in the realm of current events and the renewed push/call for gun control it is perfect timing. The drive by media and aghast soccer moms will hear "another school shooting" on the heels of the last one. Never let a good crisis go to waste.

I doesn't matter one bit how many were killed and how frequent they are.

We know there is zero chance of any new firearms restrictions passing this congress. And if Obama had the notion to EO some, he would have done it long ago. After all is said and done, a lot will be said and nothing will be done. Relax.

 

[Hobbes]

So far congress has failed to agree on:

A budget or CR
A transportation bill
A speaker of the House

They don't seem to be getting anything done at all.

 

[OKCHunter]

Thank God.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

The common elements are nut case, weapon (of any kind), and gun free zones. The low hanging fruit toward the solution is to eliminate gun free zones.

There is no data to suggest that "gun free zones" are being targeted specificity because they are "gun free zones".

Ninety-one of the 134 incidents (68%) took place wholly in private residences. Of the 37 incidents in public spaces, at least 21 took place wholly or in part where concealed guns could be lawfully carried. All told, no more than 17 of the shootings (13%) took place entirely in public spaces that were so-called “gun-free zones.

 

[tntrex]

There is no data to suggest that "gun free zones" are being targeted specificity because they are "gun free zones".

Ninety-one of the 134 incidents (68%) took place wholly in private residences. Of the 37 incidents in public spaces, at least 21 took place wholly or in part where concealed guns could be lawfully carried. All told, no more than 17 of the shootings (13%) took place entirely in public spaces that were so-called “gun-free zones.

I wonder is there data that shows percent of gun free zones compared to lawful carry zones by numbers? Meaning- if there are 200 times more lawful care places than gun free, then the 17 vs 21 you speak of is not really comparable averages.

 

[Ace_on_the_Turn]

I wonder is there data that shows percent of gun free zones compared to lawful carry zones by numbers? Meaning- if there are 200 times more lawful care places than gun free, then the 17 vs 21 you speak of is not really comparable averages.

I see what you're saying. Not sure. School shooters target the school they attend or attended. Workplace shooters target the place they work or worked. Other just pick a public place, like McDonald's, Luby's or a movie theater. There is no data that shows, or even suggest, that shooters target "gun free zones".