Tribal hunting/fishing compacts expiring

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I will say that I fully see the idea that how tribes operate (in all aspects) is often a double edged sword. Tribe buys land and immediately places it in a Federal trust (the state loses property taxes) and then builds a tribal business that may or may not pay the state anything.

Heck, folks living in Ada might not even be eligible to vote for the most important local election unless they're Chickasaw.

Same for folks in Tahlequah unless they're Cherokee.
 

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It's not robbery. The tribes are paying and have paid exactly what the state agreed to. The state doesn't get to move the goalposts just because they need the money.
They dont need the money per say, Stitt (and myself) believe the agreed upon compacts are outdated and hioghly in favor of the tribes to a rediculous amount.
No casino in this country that compares to Riverwind pays only 5%
And Thackerville, the LARGEST casino in the world, paying only 5%...pft.
 

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What a lot of people and maybe Stitt too, overlook are the other financial pluses the tribes bring to OK. 30% of hospitals in OK (rural areas) are tribal. Jobs created, out of state revenue coming in.
Thackerville is 95% TX money. And I would venture to say Durant is also.
 

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They dont need the money per say, Stitt (and myself) believe the agreed upon compacts are outdated and hioghly in favor of the tribes to a rediculous amount.
No casino in this country that compares to Riverwind pays only 5%
And Thackerville, the LARGEST casino in the world, paying only 5%...pft.

Where is the info on the percentages tribes are paying? Is that percentage including the reimbursement to the State for background checks, etc.?
 

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Tribal gaming commission published this not long ago.
Background checks?

OSBI completes background checks on all tribal gaming employees/applicants . . . it's listed in their compacts.

I've looked at a few of the compacts and nothing is mentioned about a specific percentage . . . can you provide a link?
 

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OSBI completes background checks on all tribal gaming employees/applicants . . . it's listed in their compacts.

I've looked at a few of the compacts and nothing is mentioned about a specific percentage . . . can you provide a link?
Not without searching and I dont have the time. If you listen to Stitts press conference frome last month, he outlines it.
 
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I think comparing the gaming arrangement in this state to that of other states is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

Correct me if I’m wrong but the tribes here spend quite a bit on infrastructure and medical. I think a significant number of rural medical facilities are run by the tribes...that’s a huge benefit to the state which goes beyond a simple percentage of profit.
 

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I think comparing the gaming arrangement in this state to that of other states is a bit of an apples and oranges comparison.

Correct me if I’m wrong but the tribes here spend quite a bit on infrastructure and medical. I think a significant number of rural medical facilities are run by the tribes...that’s a huge benefit to the state which goes beyond a simple percentage of profit.

I’m pretty sure the original contract required a certain percentage of the profits had to be put back into the local infrastructure.
Around Ponca where there are 9 casinos, the tribes have cost shared with the city and county to replace bridges, resurface roads and so on which is also a benefit to the state beyond a percentage of the profit in taxes.
 
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