What are Their REAL Goals?

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The latest news about terrorists is they are trying to perfect a method of implanting bombs inside their suicidal nut job operatives so they can get on planes without fear of detection and blow 'em up.

That really makes one wonder what the leaders of these guys are thinking, what their real objectives are because I for one don't get it.

Are they trying to make people afraid to fly? If so what they're doing really isn't working. People aren't really afraid to fly.

Are they trying to hurt the airline industry and just make it tough on flyers with all the security hoops put in place by the Western governments? If so that isn't working either. Your typical sheep just keeps on taking it and accepting what ever the various goobermints throw at them in order to herd the sheep along. Doesn't seem to bother most people at all. In fact it is highly likely most of 'em feel safer because of it.

Are they trying to show the world how bad ass they are? Again: if so it really isn't working because their impact on the daily lives of most people in the Western nations that are the targets of their evil are not impacted to any real degree.

Really, what is on their minds? Cuz if fear is their goal (they are after all called terrorists) and their guys don't really don't mind dying in the process of generating terror there are lots of easier, more splashy ways that will really put the fear of GOD into the sheep and the terrorist gets to go down fighting instead of just going SPLAT.

Take a mall, a grocery store or a restaurant for instance. Gettin' in to one would be way easier, almost a cake walk compared to the problems involved with getting on a plane.

10 guys in teams of 2. Assigned to 5 different places where locals gather thru out a country or in multiple countries. Each terrorist has an AK with 'da switch and five or six 30 round mags each. At a fixed time all 5 teams open up. They'll all get killed - maybe courtesy of local CCW holders or more likely via the action of a rapid reaction para-military force. But they would have at least gone down fighting.

And - that type of action would make a real splash; a big, really big splash. Bring the terrorist agenda home to Americans or Germans or Brits or the French, etc. That would be taking out the locals in a community, not fat cats on vacation at a fancy hotel or some anonymous folks on a plane. Whole communities and not just the few families impacted would become involved. That would strike fear into the hearts of entire communities. Look at what's happened in the USA and the security that surrounds airports. People would be screaming for the same thing for their malls. And that would/could impact a whole nation.

Surely the terrorist leadership has thought about such a scenario yet to the best of my knowledge nothing of the sort has ever been carried out. Which leaves one to believe that terrorism, striking fear into the hearts of the people is not their main goal.

So what is their main goal. What is your typical terrorist trying to accomplish by blowing up a plane?
 

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I just want them to stop this "shoot, run, hide, shoot, run, hide..." fighting they're doin. If they really hate us and want to kill us all, then come at us head to head like a good ol' fashion war! You get all your guys/weapons together, and we'll get our guys/weapons together, and then we'll have at it. To me, if someone feels that strongly about something (like how they believe we infidels should all be dead), they'll stand up and fight for it...not hide like chicken s***'s!
 

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What are their goals? Bin Laden answered that question back in 2001/2002 in his "Letter to America".

Goal number one...bring us to Islam. People like to stick their head in the sand and ignore/deny that this is a religious war, but it is. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver (whether or not Bin Laden personally penned this, it reflects the beliefs that I personally encountered during my time hunting bomb makers/facilitators/emplacers)

Aside from that, speaking to your active shooter onslaught scenario...one of the things preventing it is that, contrary to popular belief, it is actually hard to get dozens of true believers into this country, armed, and ready to die for Allah. Sure it worked in Mumbai, but many believe that the Pakistani ISI helped facilitate it.

The logistics of coming here, flying under the radar, and 'arming' up is a whole different logistical endeavour that they are simply, IMHO, having a hard time putting together due to the intense pressure they are facing from the activities of our, and our allies', military/police/intel forces. Not saying it won't happen, but there is a reason we have only seen lone wolf style attacks and bungled group plans that involved buying weapons from "a guy who know's a guy"...who turns out to be a fed.

Just my semi-educated opinion.....
 

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Theres a documentary called "Islam: What the West Needs to Know" its kind of dry and they are trying to make a point but it gives you an inside look at what the west is not seeing. Its on netflix instant and kind of opens ones eyes. Very informative.
 

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Theres a documentary called "Islam: What the West Needs to Know" its kind of dry and they are trying to make a point but it gives you an inside look at what the west is not seeing. Its on netflix instant and kind of opens ones eyes. Very informative.

Just checked cause I wanted to watch the documentary. Currently it is not available streaming. DVD only.
 

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What are their real goals?

You first have to figure out who the "they" is. There are differing opinions of just who the boogyman is, and what his aims are.
 

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What are their real goals?

You first have to figure out who the "they" is. There are differing opinions of just who the boogyman is, and what his aims are.
Roger That!

'They' could be the people in our own midst who exploit fear and xenophobia in order to achieve their own goals.
 

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