Charleston Shooting

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Junior Bonner

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Like I said in post #38, the dad got him the pistol for his birthday, knowing that he had a criminal record. New legislation aimed against guns will be introduced instead of enforcing current laws. Is it not illegal to transfer a handgun to someone with a criminal record? Why is the dad not in jail? He is clearly culpable in this - in so far as giving the 21 year old convicted criminal a pistol.

But no. Current laws won't be enforced. The dad will not be prosecuted for arming a convicted criminal. Never mind the fact that the suspect was an obvious sociopath - that is subjective. But his arrest record for drug possession and trespassing is not subjective - it is fact. The father armed him and should be arrested. But no. There will be more legislation, more laws, when the current ones are unenforced.
 

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The legality of his gun ownership is entirely dependent on the nature of his prior convictions. A simple criminal record does not on its one preclude firearm ownership or gifting a pistol to a criminal. We'd need more details as to the crimes and convictions.
 

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No kidding! Obama has destroyed the racial harmony that existed just 6 short years ago. Why can't people learn their place!

How coy of you. I partly agree with your implicit criticism - there wasn't perfect racial harmony 6 years ago, and I venture to say there won't be six years from now. But pandering repeatedly to race-baiting special interest groups every time a racially charged incident occurs certainly hasn't improved anything. Specifically, IF he was really interested in helping during such a situation, the President could have offered the full good offices of the FBI or other Federal agencies as appropriate) to assist local and State police and saved the "hate crime investigation" for the unlikely chance that a plausibly racist acquittal occurred. Instead, he chooses to garner a few points by having the AG jabber about the immediate hate crime and civil rights denial investigations that are ongoing. Those used to be last resort IF an unjust action took place. In the last 6 years they have become de-rigueur for any incident at the initial occurrence before any reason to suspect official bas or wrong doing.
 

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The legality of his gun ownership is entirely dependent on the nature of his prior convictions. A simple criminal record does not on its one preclude firearm ownership or gifting a pistol to a criminal. We'd need more details as to the crimes and convictions.

Don't know the time frame when he got the gun vs his arrest for drugs. He had not gone to trial on that case yet.

The Kelly file program is interviewing Dr. Park Dietz, Dr. of Forensic Psychology and the founder of the Threat
Assessment Group, (named one of the top 25 people in the security industry)
He is saying the problem with mass shootings is that the press is giving them notoriety, and that's what they crave to do these shootings.

According to Dr. Dietz, "Hinkley shot Regan because he wanted on the cover of time magazine."

From that time on, these crimes create copy cats by people wanting notoriety, fame and attention.

Rewarding that action is bad and encourages that type of behavior".

So the conundrum is where does the news media draw the line in sensationalism reporting or reporting the facts of the shooting and then dropping the issue.

Dr Dietz position is that the local media needs to handle this with all the details for the community becoming forthright because they are in the community and deserve to know the details.

Beyond the local region/community, nothing good can come from naming the shooter, giving biographical details about the shooter, which makes the shooter into a pseudo rock star by giving dramatic retellings of their life story.

Just an example and I know some will disagree with it, but the Ponca City News never publishes big stories of gang violence by calling it gang violence. Hell yes we have them here, but the newspaper and local radio station see a crime and call it a crime, and don't enhance the crime by calling it gang violence. They list the criminals by name, and don't point out they are members or not member of a gang.
 

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You're a law-you-agree-with abiding citizen?

Would you have had the balls to say that to Rosa Parks's face?

Perhaps to the entire company of the Founding Fathers, assembled? Let us not forget their open treason, for which they were immensely proud (John Hancock perhaps most of all)...and for which many of them suffered enormously.

Go ahead, worship the law as written. I'll get you a pair of kneepads.
 

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According to reporters, the fathers house was searched, with nothing found.
The mothers house was searched and they found skin head paraphernalia and anti African video's.

So the gun was the issue?

Maybe the broken family was the issue?
 

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