I would bet that the over the air calls are taped where he called the gun in... Is that correct , Mr Brown?
I have no idea what OHP's policies are.
Michael Brown
I would bet that the over the air calls are taped where he called the gun in... Is that correct , Mr Brown?
Like another poster had said before it is a shame you could not just let someone know how dangerous that was without actually filing a complaint and getting anyone in trouble.... police officers are human and make the same simple mistakes we all do, but with just a tougher job than most have....
The last time here in Moore , I was actually on my way to the range and had a rather large sig bag in the backseat with my GF in the fron carrying also... he stopped me for tag being overdue (April, and it was May. Ive never been pulled over for something that wasnt my fault)asked where i was going .. and then he said he wished he was going with us.... then proceeded to tell me to have a good day.
Question:shouldn' he have asked for my ID at the time of the initial stop for his safey.(at which time I would have gladly given him my permit and tell him where the gun was.)could have saved both me and the trooper the headach.punn intended who knows I could have been an illegal
Question:Is probable cause or reasonable suspicion needed to ask the question got any guns or drugs in the car?
as soon as cop walks up to my window, I've said "I am required by law to notify you that I carrying a concealed weapon and I have a conceal carry permit"
The issue I have with this, is that Notify doesn't require speaking. What if I'm a mute. I don't want a rookie drawing down on me because they overheard something about a weapon.
1) Unless he wanted to find out, he was stopping your wife for a traffic violation and you are not part of that process unless you contribute to him being less safe i.e. you were not cooperative. I would do the same as this trooper if I were simply writing a traffic citation.
2) NOTHING is needed to ask anyone any question. It is your answer and the level of detention that determines what is admissable or not. A police officer can ask you just about anything but the only things you are required to provide if you are the subject of an investigation are your identifiers i.e. full name, address, date of birth, and, if driving, driver's license and vehicle information.
Failure to provide any of those if you are the subject of an investigation or traffic stop will likely result in your arrest. Anything else you are not required to provide, although failure to provide some pieces of information or failure to answer some questions may result in you being detained far longer than neccessary.
Michael Brown
I don't yell I HAVE A GUN at him before he gets to my window.
I have my windows already down, my hands on the wheel, I make eye contact and say "I am required by law to notify you that I carrying a concealed weapon and I have a conceal carry permit"
Notify does require speaking up, unless you want to show it to him; but that won't end well for you.
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