welfare-packed Farm Bill

[ByrdC130]

How about a straight forward tax system, everyone in the US, whether you get subsistance or not, pays a flat tax of say 18%? Why wouldn't that work?

 

[LightningCrash]

 

[cinco]

How about a straight forward tax system, everyone in the US, whether you get subsistance or not, pays a flat tax of say 18%? Why wouldn't that work?

Neil Boortz, radio talk how host, and Mike Huckabee are both a propopent of the "Fair Tax". Essentially as you suggest as a straight "consumption/sales" tax. There is a book I'd like to read to learn more. From hearing him discuss the matter, I think they are on to something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqjW3_5Lhw

Huckabee's take:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm4YG-xhLpM&feature=related

 

[POSITIVE DISCONTENT]

The whole getting paid not to farm is a myth. I can only think of one farmer with idle farmland around here. The closest thing to getting paid for not farming are DCP payments which you can get even if you produce something.

I guess there is the CRP program but that is mostly utilized on poor farm ground that is not very productive anyways.

I'm not from around here I'm from northeast Iowa and it isn't a myth. Ask the peanut and cotton growers that collect every year and now that they are being called out for getting benefits from land that has never been farmed. In Iowa we called it row renting. The Govt would rent your land so you couldn't even grow fruit or vegetables on it. Here is some of the fight...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/us/politics/senate-debates-new-farm-bill.html

 

[MLR]

If you kick out the illegal aliens, who will work the farms?

There is a H-2A Temporary Agricultural Worker Visa program for migrant farm workers.

The fact that we need to bring in illegals to work is proof of how well off our own poor but able bodied really are.

Michael

 

[LightningCrash]

I'm not from around here I'm from northeast Iowa and it isn't a myth. Ask the peanut and cotton growers that collect every year and now that they are being called out for getting benefits from land that has never been farmed. In Iowa we called it row renting. The Govt would rent your land so you couldn't even grow fruit or vegetables on it. Here is some of the fight...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/21/us/politics/senate-debates-new-farm-bill.html

There used to be a map of Manhattan with an overlay of all of the subsidies paid to each "farm site"... in Manhattan apartments.

 

[MrShooter]

Any way they can to destroy the economy and make everyone need government assistance.

 

[Lurker66]

Neil Boortz, radio talk how host, and Mike Huckabee are both a propopent of the "Fair Tax". Essentially as you suggest as a straight "consumption/sales" tax. There is a book I'd like to read to learn more. From hearing him discuss the matter, I think they are on to something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsqjW3_5Lhw

Huckabee's take:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm4YG-xhLpM&feature=related

The poor and middle class are the nations consumers. The rich really dont consum anything.

 

[MLR]

How about a straight forward tax system, everyone in the US, whether you get subsistance or not, pays a flat tax of say 18%? Why wouldn't that work?

Tax breaks, credits and imposing higher taxes on unpopular groups is one of the best tools politicians have to insure votes for themselves. Why would they give that up?

Michael

 

[piston10]

Tax breaks, credits and imposing higher taxes on unpopular groups is one of the best tools politicians have to insure votes for themselves. Why would they give that up?

Michael

Great point.