Here you go folks, a peak at whats inside the 3.5 trillion bill....

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the problem is not with the original tax credit/deduction people got - it is with the Biden admin putting people on the welfare hook by advancing them the tax deduction in a monthly payment -- it will be difficult for a decent leader of our country to reverse that but he will need to do so

anyone who is paying attention can see that every move biden&co makes is to get more people addicted to government handouts
The problem is that you’re referring to this as a Biden issue.
The “opposition” is no better.
The options offered by the American system are economic slavery from the Republicans or social credit system from the democrats.
Both are all for socialism for their corporate masters who privatize gains but nationalize their losses.
This is an issue far, far larger than Biden/Trump or any other single individual-the entire system is predicated upon keeping Americans subdued while the wealth of the nation is stolen by a rootless, international clique of modern day robber barons.
I don’t care about Biden, and I don’t care about Trump-because they are both only for the system that allows them to wield power. We are not part of their calculations except as a mass that must managed and milked like cattle.
 

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The problem is that you’re referring to this as a Biden issue.
The “opposition” is no better.
The options offered by the American system are economic slavery from the Republicans or social credit system from the democrats.
Both are all for socialism for their corporate masters who privatize gains but nationalize their losses.
This is an issue far, far larger than Biden/Trump or any other single individual-the entire system is predicated upon keeping Americans subdued while the wealth of the nation is stolen by a rootless, international clique of modern day robber barons.
I don’t care about Biden, and I don’t care about Trump-because they are both only for the system that allows them to wield power. We are not part of their calculations except as a mass that must managed and milked like cattle.
One of the things I didn't like that Trump did was the spending. BOTH parties spend like drunken morons...they abused the power of gov't to create currency thus reducing the value of the currency already in circulation.
 

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One of the things I didn't like that Trump did was the spending. BOTH parties spend like drunken morons...they abused the power of gov't to create currency thus reducing the value of the currency already in circulation.
And they did exactly zero on preserving our liberties.
Anyone with eyes to see can observe that the American government is objectively evil.
 

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One of the things I didn't like that Trump did was the spending. BOTH parties spend like drunken morons...they abused the power of gov't to create currency thus reducing the value of the currency already in circulation.
Trump did spend a chunk of change on the military after 8 years of trimming their budgets - but then who needs a military
most of the money spent went to covid - and if you were looking - you would have noticed that each time the republican plan was about 1/3 of what they ended up with after fighting off the [unfortunate majority] dimocrat welfare spending

would you rather see the Trump days or the Biden days? that is the question
 

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Trump did spend a chunk of change on the military after 8 years of trimming their budgets - but then who needs a military
most of the money spent went to covid - and if you were looking - you would have noticed that each time the republican plan was about 1/3 of what they ended up with after fighting off the [unfortunate majority] dimocrat welfare spending

would you rather see the Trump days or the Biden days? that is the question
That’s a false dichotomy-in neither case does anyone really gain anything.
 

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Trump for sure, his flaws were outweighed by the positives, and he was learning whom among his advisers were actually MAGA and which ones were commie trash.
I don’t think so to be honest.
A rational actor would have fired everyone except Bannon, instead of keeping the same staff and using your son in law as an advisor.
As it is said you know them by their fruits, and Trumps whole presidency is summed up in 24 hours-
January 6th “We’re going to March on the capitol! I’ll be there with you!”
January 7th “To the rioters at the capitol yesterday-you will pay!”
 

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I don’t think so to be honest.
A rational actor would have fired everyone except Bannon, instead of keeping the same staff and using your son in law as an advisor.
As it is said you know them by their fruits, and Trumps whole presidency is summed up in 24 hours-
January 6th “We’re going to March on the capitol! I’ll be there with you!”
January 7th “To the rioters at the capitol yesterday-you will pay!”
you do know that your quote re march on the capitol is a damn lie - right? He explicitly referred to a peaceful protest - and all the fighting with the [deliberately undermanned] capitol police started well before Trump's rally ended and his followers headed to the capitol

seems I heard the other day that the guy who broke the window that Babit was shot through worked for the FBI or another fed agency.... he was only referred to as participant #1-2-or some other the mess on the 6th was set a up
 

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you do know that your quote re march on the capitol is a damn lie - right? He explicitly referred to a peaceful protest - and all the fighting with the [deliberately undermanned] capitol police started well before Trump's rally ended and his followers headed to the capitol

seems I heard the other day that the guy who broke the window that Babit was shot through worked for the FBI or another fed agency.... he was only referred to as participant #1-2-or some other the mess on the 6th was set a up
Tell that to the patriots that are still in prison that he could have pardoned-but didn’t.
Why didn’t he pardon Bigo?


“We’re gonna walk down, and I’ll be there with ya!” Trump, January 6th

“the demonstrators who entered the capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy.” Trump, January 7th

Those are quotes
Check out the montage there, it’s quite depressing if you believed in trump lol
 
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