Action filed against OSBI

[akgriffin]

wow...glad he got it...wonder how much the writ really scared them.

 

[ripnbst]

wow...glad he got it...wonder how much the writ really scared them.

Not one iota. Someone just went and found it and processed it.

 

[jhat]

Not one iota. Someone just went and found it and processed it.

The writ was served on the OSBI Director. I'm sure that it went directly to legal where s..t probably hit the fan. There is still the issue of attorney's fees and costs. If I were them, I would be concerned about a class action suit being filed.

 

[Jack T.]

The writ was served on the OSBI Director. I'm sure that it went directly to legal where s..t probably hit the fan. There is still the issue of attorney's fees and costs. If I were them, I would be concerned about a class action suit being filed.

I hope SHTF up there!

 

[jhat]

Nice job! Too bad it had to be such a hassle.

It actually has been fun and educational. I havn't filed a civil action in years. I play in the criminal courts.

 

[Capm_Spaulding]

the butthurt is strong in this thread...

 

[tRidiot]

I am glad he got his license, but the fact is, there were (at least potential) monetary damages incurred by OSBI's failure to abide by the law, in the form of attorney's fees. I think more of this type of thing should be done and brought to the attention of the powers that be... the cost is not going to be a big deal to them in the longrun, it was pointed out above how much jack they are bringing in by the processing of these applications. I would like to see the legislature force an audit of where those extra funds are going - no way they are spending that many millions per year on a few backbround checks (mostly internal) and a few clerks pushing some papers.. If they are going into the general OSBI budget, then I think that is BS and the law needs to be ammended to require ALL funds acquired through SDA applications and permits to be used for purposes specific to that arena. So they MUST use the funds to either hire more staff dedicated to bringing them up to processing speed, and/or any extra funds left over should result in a mandatory decrease in initial application and renewal fees to make them more commensurate with the amount of effort and expenditure required to allow Oklahomans to exercise their Constitutionally-protected right.

Just my $0.02.

<edit> That is, instead of making a net profit off of those of us who choose to exercise our rights and force us to subsidize a law enforcment agency to a degree higher than that of the citizen who does NOT participate to the same degree in his own defense or exercise his rights.

 

[jhat]

I am glad he got his license, but the fact is, there were (at least potential) monetary damages incurred by OSBI's failure to abide by the law, in the form of attorney's fees. I think more of this type of thing should be done and brought to the attention of the powers that be... the cost is not going to be a big deal to them in the longrun, it was pointed out above how much jack they are bringing in by the processing of these applications. I would like to see the legislature force an audit of where those extra funds are going - no way they are spending that many millions per year on a few backbround checks (mostly internal) and a few clerks pushing some papers.. If they are going into the general OSBI budget, then I think that is BS and the law needs to be ammended to require ALL funds acquired through SDA applications and permits to be used for purposes specific to that arena. So they MUST use the funds to either hire more staff dedicated to bringing them up to processing speed, and/or any extra funds left over should result in a mandatory decrease in initial application and renewal fees to make them more commensurate with the amount of effort and expenditure required to allow Oklahomans to exercise their Constitutionally-protected right.

Just my $0.02.

<edit> That is, instead of making a net profit off of those of us who choose to exercise our rights and force us to subsidize a law enforcment agency to a degree higher than that of the citizen who does NOT participate to the same degree in his own defense or exercise his rights.

See post 73.

 

[jhat]

An open records request might rock the boat. Belly up to the bar and go for it. I just wanted to shake-em up a bit for my friend. If I wanted to make a project out of it, I would. I pick my fights. : )

 

[_CY_]

reporting in about my experiences with OSBI ... took almost four months to process my renewal. they used a received date about 3 weeks after I mailed my application. made sure application was 100% complete before mailing.

waited over 90 days before contacting OSBI via email. took about a week before response stated my application had been approved and it would take another 7 to 10 working days before mail would reach me in Tulsa. well it takes no more than 2-3 days from OKC to Tulsa. 10 working days is another 2 weeks.

so I called OSBI the next day. asked the person from OSBI that called me back what in the world was going on? he stated that my application was just approved and normally would go in mail next day. I informed him state statues requires application be done in 90days and about OSBI's bad reputation for late CCW applications and that if my renewal was already mailed we didn't have an issue.

several more days pass without an application in my mailbox. so I emailed back requesting actual date my application was mailed. a few more days later they respond my application would mailed at end of week, four more working days... so I responded with a question asking why is OSBI with holding my completed application against state statues requiring 90 days? no response ... waiting another week .. finally my application arrives in Tulsa. about 4 months after mailing.

convinced that I still would not have my application back except for my intervention... seems with all the funding CCW licensing brings in OSBI could afford to pay for extra help. if that's what's needed to process within state of Oklahoma 90 day statutory requirements.