Let's not derail Mugsy's information gathering with moral indignation. He asked to state your position and defend it, not pass judgment on the positions of others ... Go start another thread and tell all us pro-death penalty folks how horrible we are and why if you want ...
Let's not derail Mugsy's information gathering with moral indignation. He asked to state your position and defend it, not pass judgment on the positions of others ... Go start another thread and tell all us pro-death penalty folks how horrible we are and why if you want ...
Oh, I'm pro-death penalty. I just don't get the "death by slow torture" thing some people have going. Shoot em, hang em, drug em - I'm fine with it as long as we're sure he's guilty.
Funny, because I understand it perfectly ... let's all go be high and mighty about our own personal convictions over in another thread, shall we?
The other part of my position is that the State has a duty to carry out judgements as impartially as possible. They are punishments, not vengeance. The attitude of causing as much pain as possible has no place in the justice system.
I think that holds true for incarceration as well. You can't just throw someone in a cage for ten years and expect them to come out any better than they went in. I have no problem at all with giving inmates education and decent medical and psychiatric care. If the State doesn't teach them things, their fellow inmates will, and that's not going to help anyone.
I think that holds true for incarceration as well. You can't just throw someone in a cage for ten years and expect them to come out any better than they went in. I have no problem at all with giving inmates education and decent medical and psychiatric care. If the State doesn't teach them things, their fellow inmates will, and that's not going to help anyone.
We could just dump them all off in, say, North Korea, or some other country that is on the list.
Cost of a 'chute…..
Cost of a 'chute…..
I was stationed at Ft. Leavenworth which borders one side of the Leavenworth Federal Pen. Several of my neighbors in the apt complex were guards, or admin staff there, and at the Ks. State pen in Lansing, a suburb of Leavenworth.
We had discussions about the rehabilitation programs that were attempted at the time.
At the Federal pen, Univac computer company put in a work center where inmates could get training in real world skills to help them on their return to society, as well as a clothing manufacturing company that was under government contract to produce military uniforms.
Sadly both failed after a year or two, as they couldn't get inmates that wanted to work. Even though they got paid as well, there was no incentive to work when they got a dry bunk and three squares a day.
Oddly enough, the only program that did work was the prison farm program. They made an attempt to be somewhat self sustaining by raising dairy cattle, beef cattle, goats and chickens.
The inmates loved those animals. Probably the only thing in their lives that wasn't threatening to them.
Everybody who supports the death penalty Google Joyce Gilchrist and get back to me.
If anyone needed to be put to death it's that b@tch
Ain't that the truth.
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