Oklahoma ban on gay marriage ruled unconstitutional

[flatwins]

You quoted my post before I deleted it. There it stands. My post was unfair.

No worries.

 

[TwoForFlinching]

That is also why I have no problem with gays having a Civil Union or whatever else they want to call it, just not marriage unless a church agrees to perform a marriage for them without being forced to by the government.

It seems we have gotten away from "We the People" and gone to "Me, Myself, and I"

It sure has.

 

[vvvvvvv]

I guess then, the question in my mind becomes, how does a local majority protect institutions in which they find value and meaning without negatively impacting the minority?

The local minority should be free to establish their own institutions if they want, whether it be a gay-only wedding chapel, a mosque, or whatever without interference from the local majority.

If your church believes the mere presence of a mosque in the same town as your church is considered something that hurts your church, your church was crap to begin with and has bigger internal problems.

If you believe the mere act of a gay couple getting married threatens the sanctity of your marriage, then your marriage was crap to begin with and has bigger internal problems.

I have not yet seen a judge in a firearms banning state, not just California, have the moxie to overturn such a ban. Nor do I think I will.

There's been a lot going on in Illinois. Just last week, a Judge Edmond Chang, an Obama appointee (for those who like to follow that sort of thing), overturned the law against the sale of firearms in Chicago.

 

[0311]

I'm not gay and I'm not black. My life would have been a hell of a lot easier if I had been one or the other or both.
I'm just trying to see things from your point of view.

I just mainly want to be ripped apart. I am trying to change my point of view, and maybe if a bunch of people pile up on me here, I will see things as 75% of yall do. I said several threads back that I would prefer my daughter to be gay, than be a mud-shark. Now, I am being insensitive right there; the young man is OK. There is absolutely nothing in the world wrong with him. I am dealing with it better than my wife is, but it is terribly upsetting to me nonetheless. I admitted something that I am uncomfortable with. So, this is a heavily pro Gay thread, so where are the Gays? I did not have a champion speak for me. Out of all the champions espousing Gay virtues with altruistic motives, is there not one among them who is Gay?

 

[ignerntbend]

There was at least one guy here who was about half gay that I know of. He got bored with the place. I'll send him an email. Who knows, maybe he'll come back.

 

[TwoForFlinching]

I just mainly want to be ripped apart. I am trying to change my point of view, and maybe if a bunch of people pile up on me here, I will see things as 75% of yall do. I said several threads back that I would prefer my daughter to be gay, than be a mud-shark. Now, I am being insensitive right there; the young man is OK. There is absolutely nothing in the world wrong with him. I am dealing with it better than my wife is, but it is terribly upsetting to me nonetheless. I admitted something that I am uncomfortable with. So, this is a heavily pro Gay thread, so where are the Gays? I did not have a champion speak for me. Out of all the champions espousing Gay virtues with altruistic motives, is there not one among them who is Gay?

Your trolling was more fun when you attached Mad Max/homoerotic pics lol

 

[Riley]

The local minority should be free to establish their own institutions if they want, whether it be a gay-only wedding chapel, a mosque, or whatever without interference from the local majority.

I'm guessing you must know what the mosque population thinks about gays? Right? A gay-only? So you're advocating a separate facility for their use only?

Addressing what the local minority population does, or should do, does not answer the question of how is a majority to protect their beliefs and institutions?

No one is suggesting that all homosexuals ought to conform to religious law and practice; why should civil law force the religious to accept gay life style choices?

 

[Lurker66]

I respect the champions; those entering the OSA arena and vociferously advocating for Gay Rights. But is there not one Gay among you, who will come out and admit it? I have come out and said what I am father to. I had no champion speaking for me. Is there not a Gay man among you? Or are you all champions?

Im gay. Im a dad. Im married to a woman. I eat little blue pills. I get a testosterone shot every 2 weeks. I dont even have all the genitals i was born with. My boobs are larger than they once were. Sometimes I cry.

I served in the military when gays couldnt. I served under dont as dont tell. I even told.

Both of my daughters are bi-racial. One daughter even dated a black guy then dumped him for a Puerto rican fella. My oldest daughter was born in spain, shes a citizen of spain.

Ive dated black girls too, even other races. Ive been in the sack with a guy...a couple of times in fact. Ill spare you the details but it was fun. Ive showered naked with guys. Ive compared wankys a few times. Only lost once. So im kinda a champion as well.

I have a huge collection of guns and cookbooks. Sometimes I grow flowers.

Im cool with my sexuality, im cool with who I am. No closet for me.

If ya wanna know anything else just ask.

 

[0311]

Im gay. Im a dad. Im married to a woman. I eat little blue pills. I get a testosterone shot every 2 weeks. I dont even have all the genitals i was born with. My boobs are larger than they once were. Sometimes I cry.

I served in the military when gays couldnt. I served under dont as dont tell. I even told.

Both of my daughters are bi-racial. One daughter even dated a black guy then dumped him for a Puerto rican fella. My oldest daughter was born in spain, shes a citizen of spain.

Ive dated black girls too, even other races. Ive been in the sack with a guy...a couple of times in fact. Ill spare you the details but it was fun. Ive showered naked with guys. Ive compared wankys a few times. Only lost once. So im kinda a champion as well.

I have a huge collection of guns and cookbooks. Sometimes I grow flowers.

Im cool with my sexuality, im cool with who I am. No closet for me.

If ya wanna know anything else just ask.

Thanks for having some guts.

 

[flatwins]

I just mainly want to be ripped apart. I am trying to change my point of view, and maybe if a bunch of people pile up on me here, I will see things as 75% of yall do. I said several threads back that I would prefer my daughter to be gay, than be a mud-shark. Now, I am being insensitive right there; the young man is OK. There is absolutely nothing in the world wrong with him. I am dealing with it better than my wife is, but it is terribly upsetting to me nonetheless. I admitted something that I am uncomfortable with. So, this is a heavily pro Gay thread, so where are the Gays? I did not have a champion speak for me. Out of all the champions espousing Gay virtues with altruistic motives, is there not one among them who is Gay?

311, you bring up some good points and they are along the line of what I was getting at in an earlier post. People have gut-feelings about what is ok with them and what is not. It is 100% your right to not be ok with your daughter's choice of boyfriends. I too have a daughter and though she is not dating age, I would probably feel exactly as you do. What I am having a problem with is that, in today's world, people are degraded and shamed for having a viewpoint that they feel is right but others feel they are backwoods and behind the times.

It's just like the whole Duck Dynasty or Chik-Fil-A thing: If someone states their opinion that they don't agree with something, they get labeled as a hater. That's where we are going wrong and the media feeds this problem. So much for tolerance. It is, in fact, evolution by force and that's the part that sucks.

I'm no out front supporter of gay rights and actually wish society would shut up about it truthfully. In the grand scheme of things, I really don't care. But before any adamant pro-gay reader blows (no pun intended) a gasket, I have a gay friend who I love like a sister and I've never seen her happier. She has a HOT girlfriend and they hope to get married at some point. That is their battle to fight and not mine.