Evolution

[Lurker66]

Regardless of what you might believe, "evolution" can only occur in accord with the laws of physics. Ergo, those laws of physics will set evolution in motion. Those laws of physics are going to control evolution. Those laws of physics are going to limit evolution. Those laws of physics just might prevent evolution here and there. And who wrote those laws of physics? Why, God of course!

I believe in creation. I believe in the all mighty author of all things.

Woody

What happens when the the laws of physics go to the speed of light or faster?

 

[Okie4570]

that is correct, I don't know what the truth is. I didn't say what you believe isn't true. All I said was Again, we all believe in something and that's what gets us through life, you are entitled to believe whatever you want. Heck, science may someday prove we are all wrong, but that won't change a thing in some peoples mind. It's all about the faith, I guess.

Gotcha, I misunderstood your statement.

 

[Mitch Rapp]

I believe what the the Bible says about how the earth was created pure and simple. Some say "well it has to be older than 6-8000 years, we know that just from oil in the gound, etc etc etc"

Here is my answer to that. When God created Adam and Eve he did not create infants. He created a man and a woman, adults basically. If you took them just at the moment of creation to a Dr. and asked him to tell their age he would have said they were late teens maybe twenties? So God created them at a specific point of maturity. I believ he did the exact same thing with the Sun, our planet and everything else. "Scientists" will say the sun has to be millions of years old, based on the cycle that we know stars go through. I am not calling them a liar, nor am I saying they are wrong, I just believe God created it at the point of its development he wanted to. I think many Christians go into "theistic evolution" as an excuse for the things that seem hard to explain. It's not hard to explain, it's just called I believe in an Omnipotent God.

 

[TwoForFlinching]

I believe evolution is the most logical belief of how we've come to be. I do not think the current theory is complete, as there are far too many gaps yet filled. As time will elapse, these too will get filled in, and those who choose not to believe simply won't. No harm, no foul. L9

 

[Blinocac200sx]

I believe that evolution is an amazing facet of creation that God instilled with his infinite wisdom. As far as young earth or old earth, I could go either way, and don't feel it's worth being dogmatic over. For what it's worth, while I am open to old earth theory, I do believe that carbon dating is pure bunk. Not because I disagree with the results, but because the methodology is ultimately fairly arbitrary.

 

[120 Acres]

I have a buddy that puts all his stock into a God, but will not discuss it with me. It all started when he said that there were no dinosaurs. Said they were all made up by scientists and got all mad.

I dont get it, he's a smart guy too.

 

[michaeld]

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This is an extremely in depth topic, and religious to many. Please remember that in your responses, and be civil!

I believe in a literal, 6 day creation about 8-10 thousand years ago.

I believe macro-evolution occurs in nature or "adaptation" if you will.

If I get a chance I will say more, but that's it in a nutshell.

This is my belief as well

 

[Lurker66]

I believe what the the Bible says about how the earth was created pure and simple. Some say "well it has to be older than 6-8000 years, we know that just from oil in the gound, etc etc etc"

Here is my answer to that. When God created Adam and Eve he did not create infants. He created a man and a woman, adults basically. If you took them just at the moment of creation to a Dr. and asked him to tell their age he would have said they were late teens maybe twenties? So God created them at a specific point of maturity. I believ he did the exact same thing with the Sun, our planet and everything else. "Scientists" will say the sun has to be millions of years old, based on the cycle that we know stars go through. I am not calling them a liar, nor am I saying they are wrong, I just believe God created it at the point of its development he wanted to. I think many Christians go into "theistic evolution" as an excuse for the things that seem hard to explain. It's not hard to explain, it's just called I believe in an Omnipotent God.

Many of you guys are basing creation on the first 2 chapters of Genesis. It's understandable, it's what you have been taught. It's not hard to do simple "google" or even "wiki" research to understand how or why these 2 "stories" came into being and why both Genesis ch.1 and 2 were put into Bibles.

Do just a little research on Adam and see how he "evolved" from the word "a dom" or from the earth, into Adam or earth creature and then evolved again into Adam the guy God created and placed in the Garden......Adam and the biblical "story" of creation(gen. Ch1&2) is just hebrew/isrealite/Jewish creation story.

Really no different than hundreds of other creation stories. What really separates the Biblical creation story is the fact that early Church founders adopted it and placed it in a book. One chapter was the written creation story and the other chapter is the written oral creation story.

 

[Rod Snell]

Put me on the list of scientists who do not see a conflict between the science of evolution (not the caricature of evolution in popular press) and my Christian beliefs. In fact, I went to a Christian College (center College of KY) and studied religion for a couple of years.

I believe the conflict mostly arises from shallow understanding of both, and confusing a belief in WHO made the rules and made it ALL happen, and HOW it was supposedly done, AS DECIDED BY SOME PEOPLE WHO WEREN'T THERE and haven't studied it.

The Bible clearly says we humans don't understand God's time, and our thousand years is but a day to him.....so when I study HOW things happen, I'm studying God's works. His language is written in the universe, and it takes a lot of study to read it. Genesis, inspired by God, was nonetheless written by people struggling to understand it, but not really grasping it all.

Try explaining your technical job to your 8 year old nephew, and have him write it down as he understands it........see what I mean?

I firmly believe in divine creation, but I am not arrogant enough to try to limit God's methods and timeline to my puny understanding of physics and the universe, and I've spent a lifetime studying it. The universe is more complicated than we imagine, and possibly more complicated than we CAN imagine. And God created it to be the way HE wanted, not to please people. The more I learn, I realize how much more there is to know.

 

[donner]

One problem with the biblical versions of things, though, is that they are created by man (as has been discussed in other threads). The same people who wrote the bible also thought the universe revolved around the earth. Who is to say they didn't get the 6 day creation wrong, as well?

My point isn't to bias against religion. I'm merely pointing out that biblical interpretation has been flawed in the past and therefore does not wholly prove or disprove the scientific findings regarding the age of the earth, etc.