Holtzclaw Verdict

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RidgeHunter

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Chemical castration is used for pedophiles as well, and it seems to work somewhat well. Not an emotional argument based on punishment but rather a practical idea, from my point of view.

I also support keeping dangerous criminals off the streets -- who doesn't? but rehabilitation makes more sense than paying to keep them in a prison for the rest of their life for non-murder crimes.

Why not rehabilitation for murder? Most murders are specific in nature. Most murderers are less likely to commit future murders than a serial rapist is to commit future rapes.
 

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Why not rehabilitation for murder? Most murders are specific in nature. Most murderers are less likely to commit future murders than a serial rapist is to commit future rapes.

I'd consider it, but murder is permanent. Once your dead, there's no coming back. People survive rape, they don't survive murder. That makes it more dangerous.

If we could rehabilitate murderers, we should. that's not to say they shouldn't spent some serious time in the pokey and be monitored on release.
 

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Poor serial rapist. We should send them to counseling, not jail. I mean, I've never been raped, so I have sympathy. But then again, I'm a loving caring person. It's not like they're killing anyone.
 

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Poor serial rapist. We should send them to counseling, not jail. I mean, I've never been raped, so I have sympathy. But then again, I'm a loving caring person. It's not like they're killing anyone.

Counselling is a little extreme, they should spend atleast 15-20 years in the pokey. during that time, we can rehabilitate them. and no, not all rapists are murderers.
 

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Counselling is a little extreme, they should spend atleast 15-20 years in the pokey. during that time, we can rehabilitate them. and no, not all rapists are murderers.

He would have gotten less than 15-20 years had he only raped one woman. Read the convictions. 13 women guilty on 18 of 36 charges. Arithmetic.
 

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I don't think i've done anything to make that 'apparent', and my sex doesn't make my opinion on the subject any less valid. Throwing entire genders into the same bucket is a very slippery slope. I don't see saying "You only disagree with my position because you have a penis" as any different than "you only disagree with my opinion because you are *insert race here*". I have a mother, a sister and i've had girlfriends in the past. Just because i don't advocate life in prison for rapists doesn't mean i must lack a vagina. 15-20 years in prison is still 1/4 of the average lifespan. But for these sick individuals, treatment or castration seems more appropriate depending on severity in combination with a long sentence.

And yes, i might feel different(read: biased) if it occurred to me.

In accordance with instructions by donner, I will disagree with you all I want, which is unequivocally 100%.

You may not be aware of this, but a frequently used interrogation tactic on subjects of depraved crimes such as rape, pedophilia, child porn, and murder is to ask the suspect what they think should happen to the person guilty of the crime. If they didn't do it, they almost universally call for death, life or a seriously long sentence. If they're guilty, they always say something much less, all the way to "treatment for an illness". When they hear the suspect say that, they know they've got their perp.

So I'm telling you right now that a reasonable person will not even blink at society paying whatever price necessary to lock that evil SOB (Holtzclaw) up for the rest of his natural life. He will never rape another woman again. No doubt, no question. It. Will. Not. Happen.

Where do I chip in... :mad:
 

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