Mass murder.
Strictly my opinion based on very limited knowledge but AG Reno and former pres comrade Bill and the clintonistas mishandled it.
Koresh could've been apprehended with lot less fanfare (alleged firearms violations) and for the child abuse matter, the fed 3-letter agencies typically don't handle that. Not to mention alleged mishandling of evidence after the fact.
Which brings up Ruby ridge.
Koresh could've been apprehended with lot less fanfare (alleged firearms violations) and for the child abuse matter, the fed 3-letter agencies typically don't handle that. Not to mention alleged mishandling of evidence after the fact.
Which brings up Ruby ridge.
Don't forget that the Waco incident was on the heels of the August '92 Ruby Ridge debacle. Both of them appeared to be an excessive use of force and poor decision making so it seemed they didn't change their mindset or SOP.
In all your research, you overlooked one crucial point. Vernon Wayne Howell (aka, David Koresh) was obsessed with the apocalypse and the End Times. When the Feds showed up at his door, he got what he wanted--a battle of life and death. It did not go the way he'd planned, though, as the True Believers failed to rise up and help the Chosen One of God (Koresh).
My understanding is that he actually offered to come in and talk to either the sheriff or the feds, and they declined his offer.
Back to the OP's original question, yes it changed SOP's.
Then Atty General Janet Reno set the narrative and forced the confrontation that killed the non-combatants in the siege. Say what you will about the gun toters in Koresh's cult, some of the women and absolutely the children didn't deserve to burn to death.
The .gov bulldozed the active crime scene within 72 hours for "biohazard reasons" (hello, did we do that with the Twin Towers?) and NEVER proved their illegal gun case that started the whole debacle.
Despite one member here thinking it was perfectly OK to give Koresh his "Armageddon", most of us expect better of our public servants. Waco & Ruby Ridge ultimately gave the .gov a HUGE PR nightmare. All you need to do is look at the Bundy Ranch standoff and what's happening in Washington state right now to understand how it affected standoff SOP's.
It's a shame innocent people had to be killed by the .gov in the name of "Justice" for that to happen, but it is what it is.
Then Atty General Janet Reno set the narrative and forced the confrontation that killed the non-combatants in the siege. Say what you will about the gun toters in Koresh's cult, some of the women and absolutely the children didn't deserve to burn to death.
The .gov bulldozed the active crime scene within 72 hours for "biohazard reasons" (hello, did we do that with the Twin Towers?) and NEVER proved their illegal gun case that started the whole debacle.
Despite one member here thinking it was perfectly OK to give Koresh his "Armageddon", most of us expect better of our public servants. Waco & Ruby Ridge ultimately gave the .gov a HUGE PR nightmare. All you need to do is look at the Bundy Ranch standoff and what's happening in Washington state right now to understand how it affected standoff SOP's.
It's a shame innocent people had to be killed by the .gov in the name of "Justice" for that to happen, but it is what it is.
I think that is entirely true.
Actually, I was thinking that the feds were making pretty good offers to him in negotiations, but Koresh claimed that he needed to write some religious documents before surrendering.
That whole mess is a result of both the government's and David Koresh's stubbornness. However, reading back at the Wikipedia accounts of the history of the Branch Davidians and the siege, it certainly seems that Koresh was as nuts as Jim Jones in that mass suicide event.
I certainly don't have much sympathy for the Branch Davidians. The men seemed to willingly relinquish their own wives when Koresh ruled that only he could have sexual relations with the women of the cult. Anyone that would do that is just morally and ethically wrong.
Back to the OP's original question, yes it changed SOP's.
Then Atty General Janet Reno set the narrative and forced the confrontation that killed the non-combatants in the siege. Say what you will about the gun toters in Koresh's cult, some of the women and absolutely the children didn't deserve to burn to death.
The .gov bulldozed the active crime scene within 72 hours for "biohazard reasons" (hello, did we do that with the Twin Towers?) and NEVER proved their illegal gun case that started the whole debacle.
Despite one member here thinking it was perfectly OK to give Koresh his "Armageddon", most of us expect better of our public servants. Waco & Ruby Ridge ultimately gave the .gov a HUGE PR nightmare. All you need to do is look at the Bundy Ranch standoff and what's happening in Washington state right now to understand how it affected standoff SOP's.
It's a shame innocent people had to be killed by the .gov in the name of "Justice" for that to happen, but it is what it is.
It was horrific. those people didn't need to be burned alive by our government. "Justice" is commonly found in our courts.
