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[CHenry]

Thanks @sturgisrun .
See fellas, plain as the day. lol
I just couldnt explain what I was thinking.

 

[sturgisrun]

12 Active bills as of 3/6/2020 From OK2A


Next week is a deadline week to hear bills that were passed out of committee and must be heard on the chamber floor of origin to advance to the other chamber.


2020 Active Bills 3-6-2020


House to be PASSED Public Safety Committee


HB2546 S. Roberts/Daniels SDA of 2020

HB2547 S. Roberts/Bergstrom Municipal Employee Carry

HB2901 Humphrey Second Amendment Preservation Act. / Bergstrom

HB3036 Olsen State Preemption adding Policy/Scott

HB3422 D. Hardin Capitol Carry/Weaver? Bergstrom


Other Active Bills


HB1111 K West/ Bergstrom Passed House Floor. Goes to Senate Committee.


HB2336 Bullard/ S. Roberts Passed Senate Floor. Back to House Floor.


HB3010 Gann/ Quinn Constitutional Carry Clean up. Passed Committee. To Be Amended.

Goes to House Floor.


HB3165 K West Burden/ Daniels of Proof PASSED Committee

Will be Amended. Goes to the House Floor


SJR16 Change State Constitution Bullard/ K. West Passed 7-2 PASSED Committee

Will be Amended. Goes to Senate Floor


SB959 Dahm/Echols MJ Card holder protection to get an SDA License. PASSED Senate floor.

Goes to House Committee


SB1081/ Anti-Red Flag law Dahm/Echols PASSED Committee. To Senate Floor.

SB781 Dahm

Uber bill SB364 Private Courier Business cannot prohibit firearm carry while doing business. Dahm






Bills Senator Shaw Killed or did not hear:


*SB1673 Murdock Transport of loaded long guns

*SB671 Teacher carry Bullard

*SB775 State Preemption Policy Sen Scott

*SB894 State Preemption Policy Dahm

*SB783 Public Trust Dahm

*SB866 1276 repeal of penalties Silk

*SB46 Felon Passenger can be in car with person in legal possession of firearm. Senator Scott

*SB619 Repeal secondary penalty for SDA holders. Leewright

 

[sturgisrun]

Thanks @sturgisrun .
See fellas, plain as the day. lol
I just couldnt explain what I was thinking.

The first thing that attracted me to OK2A was the fact that I can read the Bills over 3-4 times and still have NO idea what they "Say" or what they will do or not do. Don Spencer & OK2A gives plain English 'translations' of them so we can understand what is going on...

 

[chuter]

Thanks sturgisrun for keeping us informed, really appreciate it.

 

[Glocktogo]

As someone who deals in relatively few .gov absolutes and a metric buttload of .gov vagaries, I have this to add. If you want a word or phrase to have binding legal authority, it needs a listed definition within the text of the law or regulation. If you want a prohibited act to have any weight of law, it needs to carry a specified penalty and who said penalty applies to.

Otherwise its just a feel good trinket that doesn't actually accomplish anything. Trust me, trying to make anything stick in a legal sense is tough to downright impossible. Why do you think the .gov so often falls back on "lying to us" charges?

 

[Shadowrider]

OK I'll settle in to eat some crow. A couple of bites anyway. I was under the impression that a legislative resolution was just an "opinion" on an issue in that given session and wasn't binding on future sessions. That it was SUPPOSED to be considered by future legislative bodies and courts but we all know how that goes.

I'm happy to say that that is not the case with joint resolutions in Oklahoma and probably the .fed too. I just looked this up and here's what I found (emphasis mine):

Resolution - a formal expression of the will, wish or direction of one or both houses.

Joint Resolution - a resolution passed by both houses of the Legislature which, if signed by the Governor, has the force and effect of law. Some Oklahoma case law suggests that joint resolutions may only be used for temporary laws and not for permanent laws. Joint resolutions which are not signed by the Governor are also used to propose amendments to the Oklahoma Constitution or to ratify amendments to the United States Constitution.

I would only echo what GTG stated and say that I don't trust the likes of Rep. Lowe to not take the great explanation provided by @sturgisrun and twist and worm his way around basically ALL of it. The only way to get around that nonsense is to define that scrutiny in a concrete unquestionable fashion. That's my only issue. I get the baby step part, but it's very frustrating to have to do that dance...

 

[TwoForFlinching]

Apparently you’re one of us who have reading comprehension issues.

Makes you wish you'd had given an honest answer about that tattoo huh?

 

[Perplexed]

Makes you wish you'd had given an honest answer about that tattoo huh?

Can’t recall anything about a tattoo. Apparently you do, for some reason

 

[sturgisrun]

OK I'll settle in to eat some crow. A couple of bites anyway. I was under the impression that a legislative resolution was just an "opinion" on an issue in that given session and wasn't binding on future sessions. That it was SUPPOSED to be considered by future legislative bodies and courts but we all know how that goes.

I'm happy to say that that is not the case with joint resolutions in Oklahoma and probably the .fed too. I just looked this up and here's what I found (emphasis mine):


I would only echo what GTG stated and say that I don't trust the likes of Rep. Lowe to not take the great explanation provided by @sturgisrun and twist and worm his way around basically ALL of it. The only way to get around that nonsense is to define that scrutiny in a concrete unquestionable fashion. That's my only issue. I get the baby step part, but it's very frustrating to have to do that dance...

Hey Shadowrider- Believe me, I find it "very frustrating to have to do that dance" as you do- BUT - that is the game we play with our system of Government. But I TRUST Don Spencer and just kinda let him worry about it. The Legislative process is a Large Basket of Snakes but that is where we can make a difference, incrementally, and make things "Better" and Don is the master of that. - They will never be perfect but OK2A has gotten us farther down the road than anybody else.

 

[sturgisrun]

Thanks sturgisrun for keeping us informed, really appreciate it.

Hey Chuter-> You are Welcome...Thanx for your kind words.