Gut feeling........will Putin attack Ukraine ?

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Pat Buchannan has made this point for a long long time. The podcast is dated but actually more interesting for the interim developments since publication. And its not partisan. We can thank both Republicans and Democrats alike for baiting the trap.

Essentially after Gorbachev and Glasnost the West immediately began pushing NATO towards Russian borders. In doing so the hard liners got to say to the Russian people “we told you so”. Gorbachev was out and vindicated hardliners back in. Ask yourselves would we have tolerated the Warsaw Pact pushing into Mexico.

The West snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Now they are gonna get the Ukraine Filleted like a fish - just like they did Czechoslovakia by encouraging what never will be. Too bad foriegn policy wonks, Senators, Congressmen and even this President couldn’t be forced to comprise the first wave to come out of the trenches.

 

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Pat Buchannan has made this point for a long long time. The podcast is dated but actually more interesting for the interim developments since publication. And its not partisan. We can thank both Republicans and Democrats alike for baiting the trap.

Essentially after Gorbachev and Glasnost the West immediately began pushing NATO towards Russian borders. In doing so the hard liners got to say to the Russian people “we told you so”. Gorbachev was out and vindicated hardliners back in. Ask yourselves would we have tolerated the Warsaw Pact pushing into Mexico.

The West snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Now they are gonna get the Ukraine Filleted like a fish - just like they did Czechoslovakia by encouraging what never will be. Too bad foriegn policy wonks, Senators, Congressmen and even this President couldn’t be forced to comprise the first wave to come out of the trenches.


Actually, the west did not push nato on the former Soviet countries, they asked to join as protection against just this kind of crap by the Russians. Remember Ukraine is not the first former Soviet country Russia has messed with, all in an effort to regain their former glory. No political type can sit by without trying to gain more power and money and Putin is no exception.

You can keep trying to be isolationist or blame the US for everything, but the fact is Putin is former KGB and wants to rebuild the Soviet Union.
 

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Actually, the west did not push nato on the former Soviet countries, they asked to join as protection against just this kind of crap by the Russians. Remember Ukraine is not the first former Soviet country Russia has messed with, all in an effort to regain their former glory. No political type can sit by without trying to gain more power and money and Putin is no exception.

You can keep trying to be isolationist or blame the US for everything, but the fact is Putin is former KGB and wants to rebuild the Soviet Union.
Right

and Georgia suffered the consequence already.

and our meddling in the Ukraine already cost them dearly.

and of course if Mexico asked to join the Warsaw Pact we’d have had no problem.

There is a whole lot of territory between isolationism and reckless amateurish foriegn policy, something we’re currently gold medaling in.

But then again, we have an open door for neo-Marxism at home, not to mention our borders, so why not divert by pretending we can shape-shift abroad.
 

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I tend to think that Putin is a pretty smart and capable leader, he hasnt been killed off and Russia keeps on truckin.
Biden has dementia so bad he probably pees on himself clueless and incapable, the Ukrain corruption will sink Joe and Hunter. All Putin has to do is not let a false flag event start a war.
there are a lot of politicians who will be very thankful for a war right now to help people forget how much corruption and incompetence they have been into.....on both sides of the pond..... and waiting in the wings we have china Iran and north Korea to name but a few...... feel happy that uncle joe will risk world war 3 to defend the boarders of a state in which his son was pulling in millions , but wont close the doors on his own southern boarder. putin says he want an undertaking that the Ukraine will not get nato membership. fair enough let Ukraine be a neutral state.
 

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Watching Fox News and they are reporting the U.S. is closing / temporarily relocating its Embassy in KYIV. They are reporting that the Ukrainian President has been informed that Russia will invade on Wednesday.
 

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Russians have been spotted adding top attack slat armor to their tanks, to defeat drones and Javelin missiles.

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If you follow Monkeywerx on YouTube, which you should, he's saying based on military air traffic, its going hot this week.

Russian TV Propaganda Sets Up Pretext for Invasion

Russian state television on Monday aired new propaganda that was seen as justification of an imminent invasion of Ukraine, The Daily Mail reports.

Popular news host and state propagandist Dmitry Kiselyov on his Sunday show said that Ukrainian nationalists are set to massacre Russians living in the eastern part of the nation.

The White House has warned an invasion could come as early as Wednesday, and in what could be a final step in that direction Kiselyov's program provided cover, albeit through unsubstantiated claims that Ukraine has "tortured and savagely killed" thousands of civilians in the Donbass region, according to the Mail.

Kiselyov is popularly known as "Putin's mouthpiece," making it likely that his segment, titled "They are Preparing to Kill," had the Kremlin's stamp of approval.

The piece included an interview with a separatist fighter claiming that Ukrainian nationalists have said they will "kill and butcher you all, and hang your children on wires."

The same propaganda method was used by Russia leading up to its previous invasion of Ukraine in 2014. Then, the Kremlin claimed to be "protecting" ethnic Russians who live in the country.

Up to 148,000 Russian troops are believed to be surrounding Ukraine on three sides along with tanks and artillery.

Nevertheless, Russia held the door open Monday to further talks on resolving its standoff with the West and said some of its military drills were ending, signalling a possible easing of the crisis.

As Western intelligence officials warned Wednesday could mark the start of an invasion, Ukranian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy announced on national television the day would be marked as "Unity Day."

While the comments from President Vladimir Putin and his foreign and defense ministers seemed to offer hope of a de-escalation, the Pentagon said Russian forces on the border with Ukraine were still growing.

"It is a distinct possibility, perhaps more real than ever before, that Russia may decide to proceed with military action, with new Russian forces continuing to arrive at the Ukrainian border," U.S. State Department spokesman Ned Price told reporters Monday.

But Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said they still did not believe Moscow had made a final decision on whether to invade.

During a carefully choreographed meeting with Putin, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said "there is always a chance" to reach an agreement with the West over Ukraine.

European leaders have warned that the buildup is the worst threat to the continent's security since the Cold War, with Putin demanding a rollback of Western influence in Eastern Europe and a ban on Ukraine joining NATO.

Western allies have prepared what they warn would be a crippling package of economic sanctions in response to any attack, although Moscow has repeatedly said it has no such plans.

Recent Russian military exercises, including with Belarus, where the U.S. said Moscow had dispatched 30,000 troops for more than a week of drills, have caused rising concern.

Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu told Putin that some of the drills were "ending" and more would end "in the near future."

In Kyiv, Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksiy Reznikov hailed "positive" talks with his Belarusian counterpart, saying he had been assured "there are no threats to Ukraine from Belarus".

U.S. intelligence officials worry that weeks of crisis talks have given Russia the time to prepare a major offensive should Putin decide to attack Ukraine.
 
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