What is the state law on producing I.D. on demand from law enforcement

[mouthpiece]

...wood shampoo straighten the lil bastard up....

Deserves a beating.....
what i the actual **** is wrong with you?

 

[Russ IT Guy]

At least it's not Chowchilla.

Did some work out at the women's prison there years ago, reminds me of a mini Tijuana haha

 

[HillsideDesolate]

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You ever got scabies fighting a naked guy running around in public around kids?

Yes.

One of the worst parts of the industry is having to touch absolutely filthy, parasite infested people.

 

[HillsideDesolate]

California, along with Portland and Seattle, have performed spectacularly in that regard, one needs to look no further than the crime ridden, drug infested, feces filled streets of SF to see what handcuffing the police has led to. Businesses are starting to flee the cesspool the voters created and hopefully sooner rather than later the whole disgusting city will disintegrate.

Interestingly having lived in both, policing in California is much different than policing in Seattle. I did not like or trust the police when I lived in CA, I had been stopped, abused, cuffed and slammed on the ground for "matching the description" of a guy of a different race that I had watched running the opposite direction. Crime running rampant while normal citizens are used as an ATM. My CA experience is very much seeing the police as an arm of tyrannical goverment. I also know a few people that are in very high positions in LE in the state that I grew up with and should never have power over another person ever. So I can seen where someone from CA may have anticop sentiment.

In Seattle the police were.much more a part of the community and actually wanted to fight crime. The issue is their hands were tied by a tyrannical goverment.

In OK... So far my interactions with OKC PD are overwhelmingly positive. Edmond rarely waves back and seems to generate a lot of revenue. Some of these small town departments seem a bit sketch. And I have seen some people hire on that once again have no business in LE. I've also noticed the state in general is much more LE heavy. Like every small town has a police department when it would just be under the sheriff in other states, but there is more bureaucracy in general here. Also many LE jobs here are very low paying in comparison to other places which can cause problems in and of itself.

 

[HillsideDesolate]

Did some work out at the women's prison there years ago, reminds me of a mini Tijuana haha

Wow demographic change, when I was in CA it was pretty whisky tango. I am pretty sure everybody in town was related and they all spoke with this weird high pitch southern accent.

 

[Glocktogo]

Why is it you tend to come across as such a d**k? Yes...it's a true story. Are you writing a f**king book or what? I don't care to broadcast specifics of my personal life on the internet...maybe you do. And you're entitled to know what I feel like telling you and nothing more. You should know QI shields law enforcement officers only when their actions do not violate a clearly established statutory or constitutional right. They alleged his rights were violated by me (mostly due to alleged excessive force). They sued me. Why is that so hard to believe? You act like this is something unusual. It's not.

I didn't get involved in all of the preliminary issues. I had attorneys for that. I don't know why the judge allowed the case to go forward, but he did. It was over 20 years ago. My focus at the time was to defend myself...not worry about the legal theories involved. Again...that's why I had attorneys. And nowhere did I say (in the first post where I mentioned the suit) that it was frivolous or flimsy. You said that. I said he made up a story and changed it several times...with regards to what I did to him. I said he and his family were liars with a history of trying to sue. I said the jury took only a very short time to decide in my favor.

And the attorneys weren't trying to "soak" anyone. How do you jump to these sorts of accusations so easily? He billed out around $450 an hour with 2 assistant atty's that billed at about 1/2 that plus an office staff. They worked the case for over 2 years. Do the math. I wasn't invited specifically what the judgment against the little turd said or stipulated. I do recall hearing that figure, though.

You can choose to believe what I said or not.

Hmmm, you seem awfully defensive over a story YOU brought into the conversation. Are you trying to hide something?

Now you know how citizens feel when an officer is asking unnecessary questions and then says “we’re just having a conversation”. Umm, no, it’s not “just a conversation”.

 

[Russ IT Guy]

Wow demographic change, when I was in CA it was pretty whisky tango. I am pretty sure everybody in town was related and they all spoke with this weird high pitch southern accent.

Those folks are still around there sparsely but with the prison there it's mostly farm workers and gang members out there now. There and earlimart are usually a good place to start looking when your car goes missing lol

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

Trying to hide something... Yeah, that's it. You caught me, Det D***head. I confess...you're just too crafty.

I'm not defensive. But I can play the a**hole game just as well as you can. If you want a reasonable response ask in a reasonable way. Or don't...that seems to be your SOP.

Oh, I see. I was supposed to learn some valuable social lesson from that exchange? Well, I learned something, but not about police/citizen interactions.

 

[Snattlerake]

Man, am I late to the party!!

That's what I get for getting sick and in the hospital.

I read this whole CF from the beginning. I have a lot of commentary but 89%of my comments were already covered. The last 30 or so posts are getting toward the BAMMINATION stage I do not wish to experience. Calling people names and threatening to commit acts of violence..... oh my.

Can't we all just get along?

 

[Russ IT Guy]

And who knew a discussion about bicyclists could get this interesting, can someone start one about scooters next?