What is the state law on producing I.D. on demand from law enforcement

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Glocktogo

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Trying to hide something... Yeah, that's it. You caught me, Det D***head. I confess...you're just too crafty.

I'm not defensive. But I can play the a**hole game just as well as you can. If you want a reasonable response ask in a reasonable way. Or don't...that seems to be your SOP.

Oh, I see. I was supposed to learn some valuable social lesson from that exchange? Well, I learned something, but not about police/citizen interactions.
Yeah, unfortunately I figured you were too stubborn and set in your ways to learn the actual point. Oh well, wouldn’t know if I didn’t try!

Oh, and that’s Inspector D***head to you! ;)
 

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Yeah, unfortunately I figured you were too stubborn and set in your ways to learn the actual point. Oh well, wouldn’t know if I didn’t try!

Oh, and that’s Inspector D***head to you! ;)

It's not so much being stubborn and set in my ways...not in this instance, anyway. My reaction to your comments comes from a vast amount of experience dealing with people who act that way.
 

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Interestingly having lived in both, policing in California is much different than policing in Seattle. I did not like or trust the police when I lived in CA, I had been stopped, abused, cuffed and slammed on the ground for "matching the description" of a guy of a different race that I had watched running the opposite direction. Crime running rampant while normal citizens are used as an ATM. My CA experience is very much seeing the police as an arm of tyrannical goverment. I also know a few people that are in very high positions in LE in the state that I grew up with and should never have power over another person ever. So I can seen where someone from CA may have anticop sentiment.

In Seattle the police were.much more a part of the community and actually wanted to fight crime. The issue is their hands were tied by a tyrannical goverment.

In OK... So far my interactions with OKC PD are overwhelmingly positive. Edmond rarely waves back and seems to generate a lot of revenue. Some of these small town departments seem a bit sketch. And I have seen some people hire on that once again have no business in LE. I've also noticed the state in general is much more LE heavy. Like every small town has a police department when it would just be under the sheriff in other states, but there is more bureaucracy in general here. Also many LE jobs here are very low paying in comparison to other places which can cause problems in and of itself.
Sorry, that that happened to you, but I also lived in California and, in spite of having reasons on more than one occasion, I was never harassed or treated unfairly by law enforcement out there. Other than a few trips I’ve made to Seattle other than observing that most cops appeared to wish they were anywhere else but there, they didn’t do much. Like the majority of the west coast and definitely the coastal cities these days crime is running unchecked because the police have had their hands tied by liberal politicians.
 

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Sorry, that that happened to you, but I also lived in California and, in spite of having reasons on more than one occasion, I was never harassed or treated unfairly by law enforcement out there. Other than a few trips I’ve made to Seattle other than observing that most cops appeared to wish they were anywhere else but there, they didn’t do much. Like the majority of the west coast and definitely the coastal cities these days crime is running unchecked because the police have had their hands tied by liberal politicians.
I'd consider yourself lucky as that's usually not most people's experience that have lived there a bit, bit guess it would depend where ya lived too.
 

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I've never had a bad experience with an officer before, or after, I was in law enforcement. My worst experiences I've ever had dealing with a police officer was always while I was on duty.

And I'll just apologize now because I don't have any transcripts, video, dispatch tapes, affidavits or other documentation this actually occurred. You'll just have to trust me that it did. Or not.

We had a small island of unincorporated county within a small city in the Denver metro area. I was working that district one day and stopped a car in that city that had almost hit me. An officer from that agency pulled up and stopped behind me but didn't get out until I finished the stop (with a warning). He came up to me as I walked back to my car and said he didn't appreciate the county making traffic stops in "his" city. I thought he was joking and kinda laughed at him. Sadly, this ate-up dude was serious and we had a few words. I pointed to the SO badge on my chest and told him that gave me the authority to conduct traffic enforcement anywhere I damn well pleased in the county (or the state, for that matter), in "his" city or not and if he didn't like it that was just too f'ing bad. I left.

A couple hours later my Lt called me and asked what happened. I told him. He told me to see him before shift briefing the next day. I figured I'd get an ass-chewing. Next afternoon I stopped in his office as instructed. He told me he and I were going over to this particular city after briefing. I just assumed he had arranged some sort of meeting. When we got there he parked in the PD public parking lot just off the main drag thru the city. It was pretty close to rush hour...about 4pm. He asked if I had a radar and I did. He said cool. Let's find a place on the street in front of the PD to conduct some radar enforcement. We did. No one from that PD bothered to say anything. The officer did drive by and give me a pretty stern looking at...but didn't have the balls to stop.
 

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So you're threatening people here? I'm your hucklebearer
Chill man, we have two trolls raising the blood pressure of OSA. I fully suspect by the way they are prosing their vernacular, they are one and the same. Don’t waste your time or bandwidth with them/him.
 

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Chill man, we have two trolls raising the blood pressure of OSA. I fully suspect by the way they are prosing their vernacular, they are one and the same. Don’t waste your time or bandwidth with them/him.
But I was really intrigued to find out what a hucklebearer was 😞 haha
 

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