Colt and Remington may be moving.

[SgtMojo67]

Sapulpa could use some more business....I wouldn't mind working for Colt either. Let's get that petition started.

 

[Werewolf]

These laws are thought up by people that don't know jack **** about firearms. Maroons.

These laws are thought up by people who absolutely know about firearms.

Microstamping 1st Stage: Pass law. Firearms manufacturers move out of state. Won't microstamp. Can't sell into states with MS law. Defacto ban in states with said law.

Microstaming 2nd Stage: Enough states pass MS requirement that manufacturers must comply to sell enough weapons to stay in business. firearm prices go up. Result partial ban due to decreased demand at higher prices.

Microstamping Stage 3: Law enforcement vigorously enforces law. Seizes weapons not in compliance. Jails folks like us with safes full of firearms not compliant. Many owners say screw it. Divest themselves of all firearms.

and on and on and on it goes until lawmakers have sidestepped into a legal ban of firearms and only criminals will have them.

How many of us will become criminals to retain ours? Hmmmm.... How many?

 

[Werewolf]

I agree, microstamping is about making things difficult on manufactures and making firearms more expensive for consumers. The majority of firearms used in crimes are unregistered or registered to someone other than the person committing the crime, i.e. stolen. It would have no significant impact on crimes committed with a firearm.

The majority of firearms in the USA (perhaps >90%) are unregistered. Few places in the US require firearm registration at citizen level. The trace is lost at the 1st buyer and that trace isn't even a direct trace. It must go thru the FFL that sold the weapon. One might call that registration but then one would be wrong.

Besides - as you say registration doesn't work to solve crimes no matter what form it takes.

It never ceases to amaze me that even on gun boards how many people believe in the myth of gun registration in the US.

 

[Werewolf]

Since when do criminals bother to register their guns?

When's the last time you registered a gun?

My point being that just like OK most states in the US have no formal system nor requirement to register a gun.

Gun registration is just another hollywood gun myth.

 

[68mustang]

These laws are thought up by people who absolutely know about firearms.

Microstamping 1st Stage: Pass law. Firearms manufacturers move out of state. Won't microstamp. Can't sell into states with MS law. Defacto ban in states with said law.

Microstaming 2nd Stage: Enough states pass MS requirement that manufacturers must comply to sell enough weapons to stay in business. firearm prices go up. Result partial ban due to decreased demand at higher prices.

Microstamping Stage 3: Law enforcement vigorously enforces law. Seizes weapons not in compliance. Jails folks like us with safes full of firearms not compliant. Many owners say screw it. Divulge themselves of all firearms.

and on and on and on it goes until lawmakers have sidestepped into a legal ban of firearms and only criminals will have them.

How many of us will become criminals to retain ours? Hmmmm.... How many?

I understand your theory, but you're giving these people too much credit.

 

[cktad]

The majority of firearms in the USA (perhaps >90%) are unregistered. Few places in the US require firearm registration at citizen level. The trace is lost at the 1st buyer and that trace isn't even a direct trace. It must go thru the FFL that sold the weapon. One might call that registration but then one would be wrong.

Besides - as you say registration doesn't work to solve crimes no matter what form it takes.

It never ceases to amaze me that even on gun boards how many people believe in the myth of gun registration in the US.

Buying from an FFL and filling out a Fm 4473 is a form of registration. All your personal information and the information about the firearm you bought is on the form and the FFL dealer must keep it for 20 years. If they go out of business prior to the 20 years, the records must be sent to the ATF. The ATF can also gain access to those records when needed to trace a weapon. This has been done numerous times by the ATF. Of course, if you sell that firearm without doing a FM 4473 then the paper trail is broken. That''s why they want to close the gun-show-loophole and require all firearm sold to have a FM 4473 filled out. Then the paper trail would not be broken at least not for 20 years.

And California requires registration of all "assault" weapons.

 

[beast1989]

You know if this comes to fruition the market for brass catchers is going to explode.

Do BGs use colts?

 

[KOPBET]

You know if this comes to fruition the market for brass catchers is going to explode.

Do brass catchers still work when pointed straight up?

 

[870WingBlaster]

I love the end of 68mustang's video....uh, no it's not

 

[SoonerTactical]

I think that it all falls back to the Interstate Commerce topic which is why all vehicles comply with California standards and such.