OK... got the ruger 10/22 all back together after stoning all sliding parts and fine stoning sear. the bad news is trigger is still 6+ lbs or not acceptable.
this is the first time doing a trigger job by stoning sear angles, didn't improve pull weight. hmmmm... looks like sear angles will have to be changed to get trigger weight down to normal range.
as always first time back together, figuring out all the gotchas is the funnest. good thing I took all sorts of picture before breaking down.
found an excellent video doing a complete 10/22 trigger job
http://www.greatwestgunsmithing.com/1022trigger low.html
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this is the first time doing a trigger job by stoning sear angles, didn't improve pull weight. hmmmm... looks like sear angles will have to be changed to get trigger weight down to normal range.
as always first time back together, figuring out all the gotchas is the funnest. good thing I took all sorts of picture before breaking down.
found an excellent video doing a complete 10/22 trigger job
http://www.greatwestgunsmithing.com/1022trigger low.html
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just finished first pass stoning sear, actually changing angles.
slowly does it ... much better to repeat several times than take off too much metal.
very critical to retain a positive sear, meaning hammer goes backwards when trigger is pulled.
trigger is now 5.5 lbs ... looks like several steps more is needed.
but hey .. it's an improvement
slowly does it ... much better to repeat several times than take off too much metal.
very critical to retain a positive sear, meaning hammer goes backwards when trigger is pulled.
trigger is now 5.5 lbs ... looks like several steps more is needed.
but hey .. it's an improvement
Sweet. Wish I had one of the older ones too. Mine is the newest version...runs fine but I think the fit and finish was much nicer on the older ones. Congrats.
Cedar Creek....OTASCO....now that brings back memories. Worked there in high school. They had a Charter Bulldog I wanted so bad. Couldn't afford it so I wound up with what I could afford...an RG .22 single action. What a piece.
Cedar Creek....OTASCO....now that brings back memories. Worked there in high school. They had a Charter Bulldog I wanted so bad. Couldn't afford it so I wound up with what I could afford...an RG .22 single action. What a piece.
slowly does it... took 5 tries to get it right.
now trigger is a crisp 2lb 8oz with zero creep.
action is butter smooth...
after reassembly... final check is to slam cocked rifle HARD!
no miss fires after repeatedly slamming butt.
it's not possible to change sear angles and keep at exactly 90 degrees without some type of jig.
it's imperative to understand difference between a positive, negative and neutral sear. before attempting to change sear angles.
this 10/22 had the most aggressive positive sear of any trigger I've experienced so far. pull was originally close to 8 lbs stock. reducing spring tension will not produce a crisp trigger. changing sear angles is only proper way to end up with a safe and clean trigger.
totally understand why gunsmiths charge $100+ to do this type trigger job.
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now trigger is a crisp 2lb 8oz with zero creep.
action is butter smooth...
after reassembly... final check is to slam cocked rifle HARD!
no miss fires after repeatedly slamming butt.
it's not possible to change sear angles and keep at exactly 90 degrees without some type of jig.
it's imperative to understand difference between a positive, negative and neutral sear. before attempting to change sear angles.
this 10/22 had the most aggressive positive sear of any trigger I've experienced so far. pull was originally close to 8 lbs stock. reducing spring tension will not produce a crisp trigger. changing sear angles is only proper way to end up with a safe and clean trigger.
totally understand why gunsmiths charge $100+ to do this type trigger job.
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thought I'd share a bit of information on sear angles and how to check specifically on a 10/22... if you don't understand below... do yourself and others a favor by not working on triggers. a DANGEROUS accidental discharge could occur.
it's imperative to understand differences between the different types of sear angles.
action when trigger is pulled:
Positive = hammer moves backwards
Negative = hammer moves forward
Neutral = hammer doesn't move
this is true for a 10/22 or any other trigger.
sear angle MUST be positive, meaning hammer MUST move backwards when trigger is pulled.
if the gun is dropped sear angles MUST jam backwards, not forwards to a possible accidental release. if your hammer goes forward when trigger is pulled... then high probability sear will release if gun is accidentally dropped.
neutral angles is also not acceptable. risks of accidental discharge goes down, but if gun falls in the exact right direction. accidental discharge could still result.
to check on a 10/22 ... first remove hammer spring, easy because spring is captive. after removing hammer spring, hammer is still under a tiny bit tension due to helper spring below.
under good lighting conditions, pull trigger very slowly... hammer's action will be evident. hammer MUST go backwards, even if only a tiny amount. generally as trigger weight goes down, backwards motion becomes smaller.
trigger pull weight can also be reduced by installing weaker springs. but generally that is not recommended. for instance a lighter hammer spring while reducing trigger weight will also increase chances of a light strike. the same for decreasing helper springs, which could result in action not resetting. leading to a possible jam.
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it's imperative to understand differences between the different types of sear angles.
action when trigger is pulled:
Positive = hammer moves backwards
Negative = hammer moves forward
Neutral = hammer doesn't move
this is true for a 10/22 or any other trigger.
sear angle MUST be positive, meaning hammer MUST move backwards when trigger is pulled.
if the gun is dropped sear angles MUST jam backwards, not forwards to a possible accidental release. if your hammer goes forward when trigger is pulled... then high probability sear will release if gun is accidentally dropped.
neutral angles is also not acceptable. risks of accidental discharge goes down, but if gun falls in the exact right direction. accidental discharge could still result.
to check on a 10/22 ... first remove hammer spring, easy because spring is captive. after removing hammer spring, hammer is still under a tiny bit tension due to helper spring below.
under good lighting conditions, pull trigger very slowly... hammer's action will be evident. hammer MUST go backwards, even if only a tiny amount. generally as trigger weight goes down, backwards motion becomes smaller.
trigger pull weight can also be reduced by installing weaker springs. but generally that is not recommended. for instance a lighter hammer spring while reducing trigger weight will also increase chances of a light strike. the same for decreasing helper springs, which could result in action not resetting. leading to a possible jam.
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finally had a chance to go shoot the 10/22 ... very impressed with how it shoots ... not what I would call a tack driver (same hole), but not bad. will try match ammo next trip to see improvements if any.
action was very smoooth ... as was trigger. a buddy had an unmodified 10-22 there, had a chance for a side by side test. unbelievable how much difference a trigger job makes on 10/22!
mounted a Leupold 2x7, which seems like a very nice fit for 10/22
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action was very smoooth ... as was trigger. a buddy had an unmodified 10-22 there, had a chance for a side by side test. unbelievable how much difference a trigger job makes on 10/22!
mounted a Leupold 2x7, which seems like a very nice fit for 10/22
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