NRA Bump Stock Statement

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Shortly after the mass murder in Las Vegas, Chris Cox and Wayne LaPierre released a joint statement. I'm pasting the text below, and will post a screenshot of it taken from the NRA website. A lot of folks insist that the NRA is leading the charge to defeat any and all new regulation or legislation that would further infringe upon our 2A rights. That may be, but the statement below calls that into question for me. At best, it shows a level of political naivete that I have a hard time ascribing to the NRA. Stupid they ain't.

If one reads carefully, the problem with the NRA's position is obvious. "Additional regulations" equates to further infringement. Period. One might even surmise that it implies a ban. The words "function like fully-automatic rifles" should give the entire gun community pause. The vague and open-ended wording was reflected in the Florida law, which will be applied to devices other than bump stocks. As written, that law could be applied to triggers, lightweight BCGs, muzzle devices or index fingers. And it will be.

Whatever the motivation was behind the statement, the end result is legislation like Rick Scott signed yesterday as well as the regulation submitted by the DOJ today.

If nothing else, I suppose that now the NRA has a cause to fight and raise money off of. I want to support the NRA, but can't do it at the present time. Once LaPierre and Cox step down, then I'll revisit the issue.

Here is the NRA statement:

"In the aftermath of the evil and senseless attack in Las Vegas, the American people are looking for answers as to how future tragedies can be prevented. Unfortunately, the first response from some politicians has been to call for more gun control. Banning guns from law-abiding Americans based on the criminal act of a madman will do nothing to prevent future attacks. This is a fact that has been proven time and again in countries across the world. In Las Vegas, reports indicate that certain devices were used to modify the firearms involved. Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. In an increasingly dangerous world, the NRA remains focused on our mission: strengthening Americans' Second Amendment freedom to defend themselves, their families and their communities. To that end, on behalf of our five million members across the country, we urge Congress to pass National Right-to-Carry reciprocity, which will allow law-abiding Americans to defend themselves and their families from acts of violence."

https://home.nra.org/joint-statement/

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I was throughly disgusted when they released this statement, they certainly aren't speaking for me!! I don't have a bump stock and don't want one, but I believe anyone that wants one should be able to buy one. I always thought it was the NRAs position to not blame the object when it is misused, yet that is exactly what they are doing here. I haven't decided if I'll renew my membership.
 

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I was throughly disgusted when they released this statement, they certainly aren't speaking for me!! I don't have a bump stock and don't want one, but I believe anyone that wants one should be able to buy one. I always thought it was the NRAs position to not blame the object when it is misused, yet that is exactly what they are doing here. I haven't decided if I'll renew my membership.
I’m a life member and thought about canceling but they already have my money so I won’t. We just have to find a way to make changes within the organization. Almost am impossible task though.
 

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Didn't see this mentioned anywhere else. Earlier today the ATF published new bump stock regulations for review and comment. It's several pages, so I'm just posting the link. For me, the highlights are that there is no grandfather clause, there will be no compensation, and binary triggers will be affected.

https://www.federalregister.gov/doc...m_source=federalregister.gov&utm_medium=email

Oh well. Never cared about it anyway. Not like you need one to bump fire.

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I've been reading different articles regarding today's notice, and found an interesting point:

"According to the DOJ's summary, bump-stock-style devices weren't included in the GCA because they weren't around when the gun control law was implemented. If the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) goes through, these devices would fall under the same regulations as machine guns."

https://townhall.com/notebook/bethb...s-notice-for-proposed-bump-stock-ban-n2466024

Hmmm...what else might the .gov try to apply that reasoning to?
 

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I've been reading different articles regarding today's notice, and found an interesting point:

"According to the DOJ's summary, bump-stock-style devices weren't included in the GCA because they weren't around when the gun control law was implemented. If the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) goes through, these devices would fall under the same regulations as machine guns."

https://townhall.com/notebook/bethb...s-notice-for-proposed-bump-stock-ban-n2466024

Hmmm...what else might the .gov try to apply that reasoning to?
https://www.gunowners.org/goa-readies-lawsuit-against-trump-s-bump-stock-ban.htm
GOA is going to challenge it
 

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I've been reading different articles regarding today's notice, and found an interesting point:

"According to the DOJ's summary, bump-stock-style devices weren't included in the GCA because they weren't around when the gun control law was implemented. If the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) goes through, these devices would fall under the same regulations as machine guns."

https://townhall.com/notebook/bethb...s-notice-for-proposed-bump-stock-ban-n2466024

Hmmm...what else might the .gov try to apply that reasoning to?
Classifying AR & AK type pistols as AOW or SBRs would be my bet.
 

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Didn't see this mentioned anywhere else. Earlier today the ATF published new bump stock regulations for review and comment. It's several pages, so I'm just posting the link. For me, the highlights are that there is no grandfather clause, there will be no compensation, and binary triggers will be affected.

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/03/29/2018-06292/bump-stock-type-devices?utm_campaign=subscription mailing list&utm_source=federalregister.gov&utm_medium=email

I read through the whole thing and I don't see where binary triggers meet any of their definitions or are even remotely mentioned in the article.
 

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