New leak shows ATF planning on issuing rule to eliminate private sale of firearms.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

dieseltech09

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Nov 24, 2009
Messages
4,051
Reaction score
231
Location
Yukon, Oklahoma, United States
https://www.ammoland.com/2023/08/ne...ule-to-eliminate-private-sales/#axzz89iwxy2DZ
The Biden administration will use executive orders and the weaponized ATF to issue a rule limiting the private sales of firearms. According to the New York Times and verified by AmmoLand News sources, the new rule is expected to be unveiled by the end of the year.

President Joe Biden plans to announce that he is directing the ATF to close what Everytown calls the “private sales loophole” and the “digital loophole.” The “private sales loophole” is when an individual sells a firearm for profit but does not possess a Federal Firearm License (FFL).

Biden will call on the ATF to develop a new rule requiring anyone who makes any profit by selling firearms to possess an FFL. Guns tend to increase in value over time. A gun purchased in 1980 will likely sell for more money today than its original value.​

The so-called “digital loophole” includes marketplaces like Armslist Firearms Classified, where private individuals can list their firearms for sale. The Biden administration wants to see these marketplaces shut down, but it is unclear exactly how that unconstitutional goal will be accomplished. Websites like Armslist do not sell firearms directly.

AmmoLand News spoke to Armslist Founder Jonathan Gibbon about the attacks his company faces and the upcoming ATF rule. Armslist has been battling anti-gun groups for years, fending off several lawsuits. Armslist has a perfect track record at defeating these attacks, but the cases are costly.

“Private-party transactions are not a ‘loophole,’” Gibbon told AmmoLand News. “Buying and selling firearms is a guaranteed right under the Second Amendment. Interfering with state laws allowing citizens to exercise their Second Amendment rights should concern everyone. Americans have a First Amendment Constitutional right to use the internet, to communicate about their other Constitutional rights.”

The rule, currently in draft form, is expected to be announced later this year. The announcement will be followed by a public comment period. The Biden administration aims to reveal the final rule by late spring or early summer of 2024 and for it to go into effect by the fall of next year. The rule is still in the early stages of development, so the timeline is subject to change.

Previous ATF rule changes, such as the frame/receiver rule, bump stock rule, and pistol brace rule, have been successfully challenged in court. The courts have ruled that the ATF does not have the authority to pass these rules subverting the powers of Congress to make laws. In an attempt to head off another defeat, the ATF and the Justice Department will claim that the power to require private sellers to obtain an FFL was delegated to them by Congress through the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (BSCA).

The passing of the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act last year changed the definition of what it means to be “engaged in the business” of dealing firearms. Section 12002 of the law outlines the definition. Read the BSCA at Gun Control Act | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. #ATF pic.twitter.com/Rmi3u73uyV
— ATF HQ (@ATFHQ) August 4, 2023
The BSCA was a massive gun control bill that passed Congress with the support of some Republicans. The bill changed the definition of a “gun seller.” The BSCA altered the wording of Section 921(a) of Title 18, United States Code. The BSCA altered the definition of someone “engaged in the business” of selling guns from “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” to the ambiguous statement of “to predominantly earn a profit.” Now the Biden Administration is exploiting that change through the upcoming rule. From the text of the BSCA:

(22) The term `to predominantly earn a profit’ means that the intent underlying the sale or disposition of firearms is predominantly one of obtaining pecuniary gain, as opposed to other intents, such as improving or liquidating a personal firearms collection: Provided, That proof of profit shall not be required as to a person who engages in the regular and repetitive purchase and disposition of firearms for criminal purposes or terrorism.

Many gun rights groups tried to warn Republicans such as Senator John Cornyn, chief architect of the BSCA, that the Biden administration would exploit the anti-gun law, but these pleas were ignored.​

The main force pushing for the new rule is Everytown for Gun Safety. The Bloomberg-backed anti-freedom group sees the new requirements for sellers to obtain an FFL to get closer to universal background checks (UBC). President Biden and other Democrat politicians have taken millions of dollars from the group and will need the organization’s war chest for the upcoming elections.

Universal background checks have been a cornerstone of the Biden anti-gun plan, but so far have been a non-starter in Congress. With the President unable to pass any bill that includes UBCs, the White House is doing what it considers the next best thing.​


This rule shows the gun community that any “compromise” will be used against gun rights, and the ATF claiming authority through the BSCA shows that the recent losses have the ATF scrambling to prevent future losses by pointing to legislation even if the law has to be taken out of context.
 

wolfman1

Sharpshooter
Supporting Member
Special Hen Supporter
Joined
Jun 12, 2022
Messages
702
Reaction score
1,036
Location
lawton
https://www.ammoland.com/2023/08/ne...ule-to-eliminate-private-sales/#axzz89iwxy2DZ
The Biden administration will use executive orders and the weaponized ATF to issue a rule limiting the private sales of firearms. According to the New York Times and verified by AmmoLand News sources, the new rule is expected to be unveiled by the end of the year.

President Joe Biden plans to announce that he is directing the ATF to close what Everytown calls the “private sales loophole” and the “digital loophole.” The “private sales loophole” is when an individual sells a firearm for profit but does not possess a Federal Firearm License (FFL).

Biden will call on the ATF to develop a new rule requiring anyone who makes any profit by selling firearms to possess an FFL. Guns tend to increase in value over time. A gun purchased in 1980 will likely sell for more money today than its original value.​

The so-called “digital loophole” includes marketplaces like Armslist Firearms Classified, where private individuals can list their firearms for sale. The Biden administration wants to see these marketplaces shut down, but it is unclear exactly how that unconstitutional goal will be accomplished. Websites like Armslist do not sell firearms directly.

AmmoLand News spoke to Armslist Founder Jonathan Gibbon about the attacks his company faces and the upcoming ATF rule. Armslist has been battling anti-gun groups for years, fending off several lawsuits. Armslist has a perfect track record at defeating these attacks, but the cases are costly.



The rule, currently in draft form, is expected to be announced later this year. The announcement will be followed by a public comment period. The Biden administration aims to reveal the final rule by late spring or early summer of 2024 and for it to go into effect by the fall of next year. The rule is still in the early stages of development, so the timeline is subject to change.

Previous ATF rule changes, such as the frame/receiver rule, bump stock rule, and pistol brace rule, have been successfully challenged in court. The courts have ruled that the ATF does not have the authority to pass these rules subverting the powers of Congress to make laws. In an attempt to head off another defeat, the ATF and the Justice Department will claim that the power to require private sellers to obtain an FFL was delegated to them by Congress through the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act (BSCA).


The BSCA was a massive gun control bill that passed Congress with the support of some Republicans. The bill changed the definition of a “gun seller.” The BSCA altered the wording of Section 921(a) of Title 18, United States Code. The BSCA altered the definition of someone “engaged in the business” of selling guns from “with the principal objective of livelihood and profit” to the ambiguous statement of “to predominantly earn a profit.” Now the Biden Administration is exploiting that change through the upcoming rule. From the text of the BSCA:


Many gun rights groups tried to warn Republicans such as Senator John Cornyn, chief architect of the BSCA, that the Biden administration would exploit the anti-gun law, but these pleas were ignored.​

The main force pushing for the new rule is Everytown for Gun Safety. The Bloomberg-backed anti-freedom group sees the new requirements for sellers to obtain an FFL to get closer to universal background checks (UBC). President Biden and other Democrat politicians have taken millions of dollars from the group and will need the organization’s war chest for the upcoming elections.

Universal background checks have been a cornerstone of the Biden anti-gun plan, but so far have been a non-starter in Congress. With the President unable to pass any bill that includes UBCs, the White House is doing what it considers the next best thing.​


This rule shows the gun community that any “compromise” will be used against gun rights, and the ATF claiming authority through the BSCA shows that the recent losses have the ATF scrambling to prevent future losses by pointing to legislation even if the law has to be taken out of context.
FJB
 

OHJEEZE

Sharpshooter
Special Hen
Joined
Jun 9, 2021
Messages
1,689
Reaction score
2,402
Location
Not in Oklahoma!
Would now be a good time for a coast to coast gun rights petetition to be in every gun shop, bait shop, sporting goods store, and front and center on online shops as well.

1) Do away with forms 4473.

2) No serial number data or decriptions on the fbi back ground check.

3) Repeal gca 1934
4) Repeal gca 1968

Feel free to add to my list any trash that needs removed I might have missed!

I mean, really this could be pulled off if the big organizations like the Gun Owners of America, NRA, etc etc got the ball rolling!
 

Latest posts

Top Bottom