Oklahoma ban on gay marriage ruled unconstitutional

[Lurker66]

What's wrong with consensual polygamy? What's wrong with siblings wanting to marry each other, especially non-blood siblings?

My two cents as a Christian is that it is not the government's place to enforce religious teachings as law. A government that enforces Christian teachings is no different than a government that enforces Islamic teachings (other than the base religion, of course). The notion that government should enforce religious teachings goes against the very foundations that make this country great.

Our system of government cant handle extreme polygamy. ...I could marry every single person in the US quit my job, get on food stamps and welfare and make all the rest pay for it. Imagine it....One could marry every single person on the planet...theyd all become citizens with absentee ballots. EBT cards and wic.

 

[RickN]

Love it or leave it, Murica

Why leave when it is close to collapsing under it's own weight and corruption?

 

[ignerntbend]

Chapter Eight
“We’ve run the buck to cover!” Expostulated the Lt Colonel. “Sound the charge!” As Custer entered midway into the river, he was hit low in the left side of the chest, the bullet narrowly missing the heart but passing through one lung and entering into the other. The energy imparted from the large, slow moving .44 caliber slug unseated the commander from his mount, and he fell into the river. Instantly the attack faltered, and uncertainty flooded the ranks as they saw their commander helped back onto his saddle, where he slumped in a heap. The guidon bearer was shot off his mount, as was the next man who attempted to recover the standard. As Custer was escorted to the rear, toward the highest hill, a skirmisher’s line was rapidly formed, with every fourth man taking four horses. The balance of the cavalry fought on foot as the growing tidal wave of howling Brule and Hunkpapa began to intermingle with them, spooking the horses and causing loss of cohesion in the line.

Good point.

 

[vvvvvvv]

I never said there is anything wrong with, outside of someones own personal moral beliefs. Simply that it is also currently illegal in most states. But no one is in an uproar over that is all I was pointing out. I should be able to marry 8 more wives and claim them all as dependents for tax purposes as well as have them on my insurance. Oh and all of us should be able to receive the tax discount other married people receive. Oh and when I die they all should receive equal social security benefits. Equal rights for all.

Tax benefits/discounts/deductions aren't "rights".

There's an easy fix to the tax problem...

The insurance issue is between you and your insurer.

 

[JaredC]

Tax benefits/discounts/deductions aren't "rights".

There's an easy fix to the tax problem...

The insurance issue is between you and your insurer.

No its not. Once the state recognizes the "marriage" the insurer can't choose what type of marriage they will cover. Thus discrimination. So the federal government should recognize gay marriage and all the benefits that comes with it, economically speaking, but no other perversion of marriage will be? Seems to me you are arguing equal rights or treatment for some not all. But I thought this was a civil liberties discussion and you all were so concerned that everyone be treated fairly? But I guess not, only the ones you chose. Hmmmmm seems we have found the conundrum and thus the slippery slope everyone talks about.

Our system of government cant handle extreme polygamy. ...I could marry every single person in the US quit my job, get on food stamps and welfare and make all the rest pay for it. Imagine it....One could marry every single person on the planet...theyd all become citizens with absentee ballots. EBT cards and wic.

Exactly my point. This ruling and every ban that is being struck down federally will eventually open up a whole new can of worms. Its only a matter of time. I have no idea what the solution is and I can see both sides of it, but each side is blinded by their passion with the issue to see the big picture. But I think we are still a long way from seeing a state supported, sponsored, whatever the term gay marriage in Oklahoma.

I lived in California when that states gay marriage ban that was voted on and supported by the people of that state, was struck down in federal court. I lived in one of the only two conservative counties in CA. So what did the county courts do? They stopped doing marriages period. For everyone. They said "due to lack of funding and people they are no longer economically capable of marrying people." If you wanted to get married you had to go to another county.

 

[ignerntbend]

I'm drawing heavily from Indian eyewitness accounts.

...

Nobody makes stuff up like eyewitnesses.

 

[vvvvvvv]

No its not. Once the state recognizes the "marriage" the insurer can't choose what type of marriage they will cover. Thus discrimination. So the federal government should recognize gay marriage and all the benefits that comes with it, economically speaking, but no other perversion of marriage will be? Seems to me you are arguing equal rights or treatment for some not all. But I thought this was a civil liberties discussion and you all were so concerned that everyone be treated fairly? But I guess not, only the ones you chose. Hmmmmm seems we have found the conundrum and thus the slippery slope everyone talks about.

If you could please find where I argued "equal rights or treatment for some not all", I'd appreciate it.

Insurers are free under federal law to decline recognizing a homosexual spouse so long as the policy is not being paid for with federal dollars. In certain states, it is illegal to not recognize a homosexual spouse because of laws creating a protected class, and such laws are inherently anti-equality.

Because tax benefits/discounts/deductions, etc aren't rights that a person is naturally entitled to, all such benefits, discounts, deductions, etc should be completely abolished for all. You shouldn't pay more in taxes because you got married. You shouldn't pay less in taxes because you had a kid. You shouldn't pay less in taxes because you made a charitable contribution. And so on.

And yes, I am consistent in my beliefs about legally-defined protected classes. There should be none. Any argument for a protected class is an argument against equality.

 

[ignerntbend]

Yep . That's the kind of stuff the young people want to read on their Kindles at the airport.
I think you've got a good idea here, It's all about marketing.

 

[ignerntbend]

Crazy Horse said "is this Justin Bieber's head I see before me?"
Because he's been walkin to many roads, sniffin too many eggs.
It just doesn't work. Choose another project.
We have a very limited window of opportunity to do our best work,.

 

[ignerntbend]

I have several friends who have written tons of books and they haven't made dime one off them books.
Who's the joke on? The joke's on them. Who gives an explosive greasyassed crap that you wrote a book:?
Nobody, that's who.