You're right, and people won't care until it effects them directly and personally.
You're right, and people won't care until it effects them directly and personally.
Carefully planned, to do , just what its doing.
And the unicorn-riding dreamers bought it hook, line, and sinker.
not really its the people who don't pay for **** as it is wanted it. How is it going to cost them anything if they dont pay for it already? It will murder the healthcare system as we know it and people who actually pay will pick up the tab. Essentially just buying votes
The people who voted for the politicians who support this kind of legislation are the type who think we can all live in a Utopian society. And we all know that will never happen.
There... fixed it for ya.
The system has been in trouble for a loooong time. I had two different doctors drop taking insurance altogether (during the Bush rule, OMG NO!) because the government signed some bill giving insurance companies more power which allowed them to go on a rampage of declining payment to doctors. I STILL have to pay out of pocket to see one of those doctors. This isn't an Obama issue it's a government issue...it's time to get tough with insurance companies and demand fair practices. As far as England goes, that people dying because they can't see specialists is just wrong. The population in England has a higher life expectancy than we do with our awesome docs, technology and healthcare. America turns it's people away routinely for not having insurance or for even not having the right insurance. Hospital staff literally push people out to the street once "stable" ....there some live, some die.
I've got insurance and it's a nightmare trying to get them to actually pay up. They hire teams of people specifically to find loopholes in your policy so they don't have to pay your claim. If you're uneducated you can call the English or Canadian or any other of other country that out lives US's system a socialist government but you just make yourself sound silly. It's sickening that the greatest country in the world sweeps its sick, injured and elderly under the rug to die out of the public eye unless they have the financial means to buy their lives from the system.
It's America's biggest current shame and there's no excuse for it. The republicans had year after year to do something and all they did was give the insurance companies more power to take in more premiums and pay out less. No American, insured or not, should live one major medical incident away from bankruptcy like they are now. There are countless cases of insurance premium paying, hardcore conservative republican families who ended up bankrupt and unable to feed their kids because they had a major medical expense. We all love to think that it only happens to someone else until it happens to us.
It was during the final Bush years that I left the republican party after being a staunch believer in the party. I don't know if Obama's plan is going to work or not but at least he tried which is more than I can say about my former political party. After this 2A crap I may have to go back but it won't be because of healthcare.
I've got insurance and it's a nightmare trying to get them to actually pay up. They hire teams of people specifically to find loopholes in your policy so they don't have to pay your claim. If you're uneducated you can call the English or Canadian or any other of other country that out lives US's system a socialist government but you just make yourself sound silly. It's sickening that the greatest country in the world sweeps its sick, injured and elderly under the rug to die out of the public eye unless they have the financial means to buy their lives from the system.
It's America's biggest current shame and there's no excuse for it. The republicans had year after year to do something and all they did was give the insurance companies more power to take in more premiums and pay out less. No American, insured or not, should live one major medical incident away from bankruptcy like they are now. There are countless cases of insurance premium paying, hardcore conservative republican families who ended up bankrupt and unable to feed their kids because they had a major medical expense. We all love to think that it only happens to someone else until it happens to us.
It was during the final Bush years that I left the republican party after being a staunch believer in the party. I don't know if Obama's plan is going to work or not but at least he tried which is more than I can say about my former political party. After this 2A crap I may have to go back but it won't be because of healthcare.
Relatives (by marriage) of mine who came from Canada and one from England disagree with your belief their healthcare is better. LAst time I spoke with the girl from England who married my cousin. She said their DIET is drastically different from ours. Plenty of British are fat but Americans are OBESE! which could skew all sorts of data.
This is very true. I know a lot of people from the UK and Canada and they all say the same. As for the data, part of the difference is the way countries count deaths and the fact that so many of out younger people die in auto accidents, etc. Even infant deaths are counted differently. In the US if a baby is born and dies soon after, it is counted as an infant death. In most other countries it is counted as stillborn.
I think once this mess fully kicks in and people start being denied treatment, even if willing to pay out of pocket because they are not good candidates you will see a huge backlash.
I forgot to mention, there is another big stink going in the UK right now about the poor treatment of patients. Seems to many are being allowed to starve to death or die of thirst against doctors orders. Sometimes our doctors will withhold food and water if the patient is dying and feeding them is only prolonging their suffering and the family agrees, but these are people that are not. Same type situation we had with bad nursing homes 40 years ago.
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"But at least he tried". Wow. He made no effort to actually address the problems in the health care system, "Obama care" was a tax increase, pure and simple.
Bottom line: Quality healthcare is expensive, someone has to pay for it! Equipment is expensive, medicine (particularly R & D) is expensive, doctors and nurses don't (and shouldn't) work for free, etc.
I take care of myself, exercise, diet etc. Why should I (through taxes or higher premiums) have to pay for those who don't?
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