really?? I mean common

[WTJ]

30-30

110 gr (7.1 g) FP 2,684 ft/s (818 m/s) 1,760 ft·lbf (2,390 J)
130 gr (8.4 g) FP 2,496 ft/s (761 m/s) 1,799 ft·lbf (2,439 J)
150 gr (9.7 g) FN 2,390 ft/s (730 m/s) 1,903 ft·lbf (2,580 J)
160 gr (10 g) cast LFN 1,616 ft/s (493 m/s) 928 ft·lbf (1,258 J)
170 gr (11 g) FP 2,227 ft/s (679 m/s) 1,873 ft·lbf (2,539 J)

7.62x39

123 gr (8.0 g) Full Metal Jacket 731.5 m/s (2,400 ft/s) 2,073.6 J (1,529.4 ft·lbf)
154 gr (10.0 g) Spitzer SP 641.3 m/s (2,104 ft/s) 2,056.3 J (1,516.6 ft·lbf)
123.5 gr (8.00 g) Full Metal Jacket 804.7 m/s (2,640 ft/s) 2,460 J (1,810 ft·lbf)

Close, with the 30-30 having the edge. I was aware that the 30-30 uses a .308 projectile. The 7.62x39 appears to use a .311 projectile.

7.62x51

9.7 g (150 gr) FMJ 850 m/s (2,800 ft/s) 3,504 J (2,584 ft·lbf)
11.3 g (174 gr) M118 Long Range BTHP 790 m/s (2,600 ft/s) 3,526 J (2,601 ft·lbf)

Looks like this one has a bit more energy.

 

[AKguy1985]

7.62X39 and 30-30 win are balistically similar. And i havent seen many mini 30's around

 

[Glocktogo]

Mini-30's suck. I owned a ranch model that was literally a pie plate gun at 100 yards. That was off the bench, with a scope and using quality ammo!

 

[Werewolf]

Thats a great deal. FULL METAL JACKETS AND IT HAS A CLIP!

Except he's not selling a Mini-30 he says its a Mini-14. and that is not chambered for a 7.62X39.

The guys a fudd or a guntard.

 

[Werewolf]

The lead (bullet) in both the 7.62 x 39 or 51 and the 30-30 are the same. The casings (shells) are what makes the differance.

Actually the bullets are not the same either. Close but no cookie. The standard diameter for a 7.62X39 Russian is .311 not .308 which NATO and Commercial use in the 7.62X51 cartridge.

The 7.62x39 Russian (Soviet) Model 43[/B]

 

[dennishoddy]

From Chuck Hawks:

.308" - .30 Carbine, .30-30, .300 Savage, .308 Winchester, .30-06, .300 Mag. (all)
.311" - 7.62x39 Soviet, .303 British

 

[cjjtulsa]

Mini-30's suck. I owned a ranch model that was literally a pie plate gun at 100 yards. That was off the bench, with a scope and using quality ammo!

Ditto. Had one too that wouldn’t hit within a foot of the same place twice, shooting from a rest.

 

[copertop80]

Ditto. Had one too that wouldn’t hit within a foot of the same place twice, shooting from a rest.

That's kinda disappointing, what kinda distances were ya'll shooting at??

 

[Glocktogo]

100 yards.