Schumer Shutdown: Dems want shutdown to protect illegals!

[andrsnsm]

Because essential refers to LEO positions and a few others. It doesn’t include engineers and production etc to keep war fighters going.

Actually, the Maintenance Wing at Tinker is considered essential and they will continue to produce war fighting capability.


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[SMS]

Trying to blame this situation on the Democrats is laughable and desperate. Yes, Schumer is a slimy piece of you-know-what and is using what little bargaining power he has to keep things from progressing this past week but we never should've been here in the first place. He should've been made irrelevant many months ago. Ryan and McConnell are just as slimy as he is. McConnell has taken the definition of inept and bumbling to a new level. He couldn't deal his way out of wet paper bag.

The Republicans had full control of the Executive and Legislative branches of government since 20 Jan 17, one year ago. Work should've begun on the FY18 budget and appropriations shortly after the victory celebrations. FY18 Started on 1 October 2017, with no long term appropriations in place. Now here we are, 4 months into the fiscal year, approaching the time when work on the FY19 appropriations should be getting ready to start, still bitching and fighting over FY18.

A key part of being a leader is taking responsibility when things don't go well, not pointing fingers.

 

[white92coupe]

Actually, the Maintenance Wing at Tinker is considered essential and they will continue to produce war fighting capability.


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That is mostly true. Depending on how long this shutdown lasts, they could be furloughed and not receive backpay for the furloughed days. It would be unpaid time off for those employees.

 

[OKCHunter]

Trying to blame this situation on the Democrats is laughable and desperate. Yes, Schumer is a slimy piece of you-know-what and is using what little bargaining power he has to keep things from progressing this past week but we never should've been here in the first place. He should've been made irrelevant many months ago. Ryan and McConnell are just as slimy as he is. McConnell has taken the definition of inept and bumbling to a new level. He couldn't deal his way out of wet paper bag.

The Republicans had full control of the Executive and Legislative branches of government since 20 Jan 17, one year ago. Work should've begun on the FY18 budget and appropriations shortly after the victory celebrations. FY18 Started on 1 October 2017, with no long term appropriations in place. Now here we are, 4 months into the fiscal year, approaching the time when work on the FY19 appropriations should be getting ready to start, still *****ing and fighting over FY18.

A key part of being a leader is taking responsibility when things don't go well, not pointing fingers.

Disagree. Democrats are to blame for this shutdown. There is no reason to have brought DACA, a totally separate issue, into funding the government.

Very little could be accomplished during the past year because of the Democrats "Resist" agenda. Frankly, what has been accomplished is good and a little surprising to me considering the battle against both the media and the Democrats. The priorities chosen during the past year - political appointments, dismantling of ISIS, and tax cuts, were a higher priority than worrying about a budget fight four months in advance. Now is not the time to throw childish fits but to keep advancing the interest of our country first. This year is about a budget solution and immigration reform with a DACA solution. Democrats need to sit down and let the adults put the country back on track.

 

[Slim Deal]

^^^^ Right Answer ^^^^
As far as I am concerned it is the ONLY answer.

 

[SlugSlinger]

And here’s the problem!

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Keeping illegals in and letting more come only has one purpose for Democrats - holding on to and adding to their constituency. Otherwise, the Democrats will become extinct as far as any hold on power. The rest of us be damned in their world.

Woody

 

[SlugSlinger]

Trump Says GOP May Need to Use `Nuclear Option': Shutdown Update

President Donald Trump says on Twitterthat if the shutdown stalemate continues, Republicans should consider the so-called “nuclear option” in the Senate, which would allow them to vote on a long-term budget with a simple majority and no more continuing resolutions. “The Dems just want illegal immigrants to pour into our nation unchecked,” Trump says to kick off a day seen as the final chance for a rapid end to the shutdown.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...eld-fast-deal-or-long-impasse-shutdown-update

 

[SlugSlinger]

A key part of being a leader is taking responsibility when things don't go well, not pointing fingers.

I’m sorry, this does not work with the Democrats and their political motivations and agenda and it’s completely irrelevant in today’s politics!

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

Amendment XIV

Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Once the debt is made, by law, doesn't congress have to authorize the payment?

Not necessarily. Once the debt is authorized, it can't be canceled, but it may not actually get paid.

See that word "including"? It means ANY debt authorized cannot be cancelled, not even a debt incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion - - - ANY debt authorized. Want to know why the national debt keeps rising? Even though it can't be cancelled, there is no mandate in the Constitution that it has to be paid off.

Wouldn't you just love to have a credit account that you never had to pay off? This section of the Fourteenth Amendment must be repealed (along with the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments) if we are ever to have a secure, debt free, and prosperous country.

Woody