TRUE Cost Of The Wall Street Bailout - 12.8 Trillion Dollars

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There seems to be some misunderstanding about the nature of what the 12.8 Trillion is.

Most of that 12.8 Trillion is not spending by the federal government. It is obligations created out of thin air by the federal reserve.
It wasn't voted on by our legislators and you won't find it written into any bill or budget in congress.
And we don't even know who that money went to or how much.
That's why I'm looking forward to this reaching the SCOTUS and the federal reserve being forced to disclose who benefited from this chicanery.

I can't see the Fed ever disclosing that information. Bernanke was asked before if he was going to tell where (I think) a half a trillion dollars of it went, and his answer was a simple "no". The Federal Reserve needs to be completely abandoned, and those inside dealt some mob justice.
 

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I can't see the Fed ever disclosing that information. Bernanke was asked before if he was going to tell where (I think) a half a trillion dollars of it went, and his answer was a simple "no". The Federal Reserve needs to be completely abandoned, and those inside dealt some mob justice.

When the Gov gets money, it slips away to places we never see. After the bailouts, tarp, and everything else. I think we will see all kinds of campain money records this next election cycle. We will never know where all of that money comes from, but it will come.
 

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Initial results of the independent audit of the federal reserve have been released and posted by senator Sanders.
I know he's a socialist, but it's a revealing document.

Here is the summary:
http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=9e2a4ea8-6e73-4be2-a753-62060dcbb3c3

And here is the official GAO audit report with 8x10 color glossy photographs with the circles and the arrows:
http://sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/GAO Fed Investigation.pdf
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The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study. "As a result of this audit, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and corporations in the United States and throughout the world," said Sanders. "This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone else."

Among the investigation's key findings is that the Fed unilaterally provided trillions of dollars in financial assistance to foreign banks and corporations from South Korea to Scotland, according to the GAO report. "No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the president," Sanders said.

The non-partisan, investigative arm of Congress also determined that the Fed lacks a comprehensive system to deal with conflicts of interest, despite the serious potential for abuse. In fact, according to the report, the Fed provided conflict of interest waivers to employees and private contractors so they could keep investments in the same financial institutions and corporations that were given emergency loans.

For example, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase served on the New York Fed's board of directors at the same time that his bank received more than $390 billion in financial assistance from the Fed. Moreover, JP Morgan Chase served as one of the clearing banks for the Fed's emergency lending programs.

In another disturbing finding, the GAO said that on Sept. 19, 2008, William Dudley, who is now the New York Fed president, was granted a waiver to let him keep investments in AIG and General Electric at the same time AIG and GE were given bailout funds. One reason the Fed did not make Dudley sell his holdings, according to the audit, was that it might have created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

To Sanders, the conclusion is simple. "No one who works for a firm receiving direct financial assistance from the Fed should be allowed to sit on the Fed's board of directors or be employed by the Fed," he said.

The investigation also revealed that the Fed outsourced most of its emergency lending programs to private contractors, many of which also were recipients of extremely low-interest and then-secret loans.

The Fed outsourced virtually all of the operations of their emergency lending programs to private contractors like JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, and Wells Fargo. The same firms also received trillions of dollars in Fed loans at near-zero interest rates. Altogether some two-thirds of the contracts that the Fed awarded to manage its emergency lending programs were no-bid contracts. Morgan Stanley was given the largest no-bid contract worth $108.4 million to help manage the Fed bailout of AIG.

A more detailed GAO investigation into potential conflicts of interest at the Fed is due on Oct. 18, but Sanders said one thing already is abundantly clear. "The Federal Reserve must be reformed to serve the needs of working families, not just CEOs on Wall Street."
 

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There is also a report out now that the government is done with the Chrysler debocle and posted a loss of 1.2 billion there.

It makes me sick to my stomach how we've let them all get away with this. The government needs an enema.
 

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Initial results of the independent audit of the federal reserve have been released and posted by senator Sanders.
I know he's a socialist, but it's a revealing document.

Here is the summary:
http://sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/news/?id=9e2a4ea8-6e73-4be2-a753-62060dcbb3c3

And here is the official GAO audit report with 8x10 color glossy photographs with the circles and the arrows:
http://sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/GAO Fed Investigation.pdf
___________________________________________________________

The first top-to-bottom audit of the Federal Reserve uncovered eye-popping new details about how the U.S. provided a whopping $16 trillion in secret loans to bail out American and foreign banks and businesses during the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. An amendment by Sen. Bernie Sanders to the Wall Street reform law passed one year ago this week directed the Government Accountability Office to conduct the study. "As a result of this audit, we now know that the Federal Reserve provided more than $16 trillion in total financial assistance to some of the largest financial institutions and corporations in the United States and throughout the world," said Sanders. "This is a clear case of socialism for the rich and rugged, you're-on-your-own individualism for everyone else."

Among the investigation's key findings is that the Fed unilaterally provided trillions of dollars in financial assistance to foreign banks and corporations from South Korea to Scotland, according to the GAO report. "No agency of the United States government should be allowed to bailout a foreign bank or corporation without the direct approval of Congress and the president," Sanders said.

The non-partisan, investigative arm of Congress also determined that the Fed lacks a comprehensive system to deal with conflicts of interest, despite the serious potential for abuse. In fact, according to the report, the Fed provided conflict of interest waivers to employees and private contractors so they could keep investments in the same financial institutions and corporations that were given emergency loans.

For example, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase served on the New York Fed's board of directors at the same time that his bank received more than $390 billion in financial assistance from the Fed. Moreover, JP Morgan Chase served as one of the clearing banks for the Fed's emergency lending programs.

In another disturbing finding, the GAO said that on Sept. 19, 2008, William Dudley, who is now the New York Fed president, was granted a waiver to let him keep investments in AIG and General Electric at the same time AIG and GE were given bailout funds. One reason the Fed did not make Dudley sell his holdings, according to the audit, was that it might have created the appearance of a conflict of interest.

To Sanders, the conclusion is simple. "No one who works for a firm receiving direct financial assistance from the Fed should be allowed to sit on the Fed's board of directors or be employed by the Fed," he said.

The investigation also revealed that the Fed outsourced most of its emergency lending programs to private contractors, many of which also were recipients of extremely low-interest and then-secret loans.

The Fed outsourced virtually all of the operations of their emergency lending programs to private contractors like JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, and Wells Fargo. The same firms also received trillions of dollars in Fed loans at near-zero interest rates. Altogether some two-thirds of the contracts that the Fed awarded to manage its emergency lending programs were no-bid contracts. Morgan Stanley was given the largest no-bid contract worth $108.4 million to help manage the Fed bailout of AIG.

A more detailed GAO investigation into potential conflicts of interest at the Fed is due on Oct. 18, but Sanders said one thing already is abundantly clear. "The Federal Reserve must be reformed to serve the needs of working families, not just CEOs on Wall Street."

Redistribution of wealth? Funny how so many ***** if they think it's going to the poor but say nothing when it goes to the "professional criminals".
 

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Redistribution of wealth? Funny how so many ***** if they think it's going to the poor but say nothing when it goes to the "professional criminals".

Really? I think it's atrocious.

I don't care WHOM it's going to, if you take my wealth and give it to someone else, you're screwing me.
 

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Really? I think it's atrocious.

I don't care WHOM it's going to, if you take my wealth and give it to someone else, you're screwing me.

I said many, not all. But consider some of the statements here and elsewhere about help for the poor and unemployed.
Consider the media coverage and public attention, along with the untold amounts spent to fight street crime and fact that some might even feel thieves should just be shot.
On the other hand we see virtually no media coverage and little outrage over the huge frauds related to the banking/mortgage industry or other "white collar crimes". We put thieves who break into a home or use a weapon to steal in prison, (along with people who do much less) while those who steal millions with a pen and lies get a slap on the wrist and a chance to do it again.


"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. " AESOP
 

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