Two Airmen killed at Vance AFB

[Fredkrueger100]

The T-38 is supposed to be replaced with the T-7A in 2023.



First training death at Vance since 2000. 800-1000 landings per day. The two Talons were landing when the one went inverted and didn't recover.

I wasn’t just referring to deaths in Oklahoma but as a military as a whole. Thanks for posting those statistics though. I didn’t know that.

 

[Snattlerake]

The T-38 is supposed to be replaced with the T-7A in 2023.



First training death at Vance since 2000. 800-1000 landings per day. The two Talons were landing when the one went inverted and didn't recover.

Nice lookin jet.

 

[dennishoddy]

The T-38 is supposed to be replaced with the T-7A in 2023.



First training death at Vance since 2000. 800-1000 landings per day. The two Talons were landing when the one went inverted and didn't recover.

Wonder if it was equipment related or pilot related vertigo which is not uncommon. The brain says the instruments aren’t correct and the brain wins typically.
We will find out.
Never realized there was that much activity on take offs and landings daily.

 

[Riley]

My understanding is that it was a formation landing, in which the T38's are apparently, somewhat notorious to handle, a tire failure on the lead which lead the wing to attempt to avoid. No specific knowledge just web references. Prayers to the family's.....

 

[AKguy1985]

sad deal, prayers for those involved.

 

[Snattlerake]

Wonder if it was equipment related or pilot related vertigo which is not uncommon. The brain says the instruments aren’t correct and the brain wins typically.
We will find out.
Never realized there was that much activity on take offs and landings daily.

Believed to be a formation landing.

 

[Poke78]

The IP who was killed was part of the Veteran’s Day flyover ceremony at the OSU game this past weekend.

 

[DRC458]

Wonder if it was equipment related or pilot related vertigo which is not uncommon. The brain says the instruments aren’t correct and the brain wins typically.
We will find out.
Never realized there was that much activity on take offs and landings daily.

Highly unlikely. Formation landing, and they were very nearly on the ground, or it could have even happened at touchdown. At that point, it is all up to the pilot and they are at very close clearance. A catastrophic failure of some sort is possible (flight control cables do break on occasion, though not very often). A blown tire is also possible. A sudden wind gust is possible, but also unlikely. Whatever the exact circumstances, it appears to me that they clipped wingtips for whatever reason. The T-38 responds very quickly to all inputs, and they were probably upside down and in contact with the ground before they had any prayer of responding.

 

[RugersGR8]

https://www.enidnews.com/news/updated-air-force-report-pilot-error-led-to-fatal-t-38-crash-at-vance/article_4664cc4e-8bf4-11ea-b092-cfad86c57500.html#utm_source=enidnews.com&utm_campaign=/news/updated-air-force-report-pilot-error-led-to-fatal-t-38-crash-at-vance/article-4664cc4e-8bf4-11ea-b092-cfad86c57500.html?mode=email&-dc=1588377061&utm_medium=auto alert email&utm_content=headline
UPDATED: Air Force report: Pilot error led to fatal T-38 crash at Vance
Student pilot's parents refute conclusions 'as being grossly and unjustly incomplete'
James Neal | Staff Writer
3 hrs ago

 

[DRC458]

With my deepest sympathies and all due respect, the student's parents are woefully uninformed.

That is all I have to say.



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