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Well, that's an interesting question. What does it say? How do you read it?

Begin with this: what is the fundamental right guaranteed (not conferred) by the Fourth Amendment? What is its essence?

It's really a simple question and can be answered with either "Yes" or "No". If you believe there is any possible circumstance where a warrant wouldn't be needed prior to the police/government searching/seizing something, the answer would be "No". Otherwise it's a "Yes".
 

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It's really a simple question and can be answered with either "Yes" or "No". If you believe there is any possible circumstance where a warrant wouldn't be needed prior to the police/government searching/seizing something, the answer would be "No". Otherwise it's a "Yes".
Sure, but such belief has to be predicated on the Fourth Amendment itself. It's not difficult. If unsupported by the text, as you seem to be asking, it's merely a gratuitous opinion. If supported, we have substantive material to discuss.
 

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Sure, but such belief has to be predicated on the Fourth Amendment itself. It's not difficult. If unsupported by the text, as you seem to be asking, it's merely a gratuitous opinion. If supported, we have substantive material to discuss.
At this point, I think you get off on mental masturbation.
 

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Sure, but such belief has to be predicated on the Fourth Amendment itself. It's not difficult. If unsupported by the text, as you seem to be asking, it's merely a gratuitous opinion. If supported, we have substantive material to discuss.

Oh, FFS... Never mind. That GIF of the guy bashing his head into the brick is pretty spot on apparently.
 

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At this point, I think you get off on mental masturbation.

Perfect. It's pretty hard to take him seriously now. JoeG with a better vocabulary...

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the car was never "torn apart", the "clock" isn't running on anyone putting it back together, and there was more to the story than he's letting on.

F**k it... It's no longer a decent conversation...it's some random dude trying justify his opinions.
 

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Perfect. It's pretty hard to take him seriously now. JoeG with a better vocabulary...

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the car was never "torn apart", the "clock" isn't running on anyone putting it back together, and there was more to the story than he's letting on.

F**k it... It's no longer a decent conversation...it's some random dude trying justify his opinions.
Yeah, wonder if his kid is even pushing for this… I bet not. Makes no sense to persue unless the car was trashed. If it was trashed, you would have the photos for evidence…
 

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Nick Offerman Popcorn GIF by NBC
 

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Oh yeah, a life lesson....if you're on a ship sinking in shark infested waters, surround yourself with all available attorneys. They leave such a bad taste in your mouth....even sharks won't bite 'em!
You know the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead lawyer there?
There are skid marks in front of the skunk.

But as Mickey Haller said in one of the Michael Connelly novels, everybody hates the defense attorney until they need the defense attorney.
 

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