Local gun shops who WON'T answer phones!!!!!

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Some random thoughts:

1) If you would have ordered from their website you'd have the items by now.

2) NOBODY is mag particle inspecting bargain priced sporting type barrels. Sorry. They just aren't. That process alone will add $75 to the price of a barrel in and of itself and would constitute a serious choke on delivering product by the manufacturers. And I highly doubt the top tier barrels are either unless it's a military contract production run. For the MP test to mean anything at all each and every barrel has to be tested. A spot check every so often is utterly meaningless. NDT can't be done by just any trained monkey making $12 an hour either. ASNT certifications aren't easy to get, they take a lot of time, effort and OJT to get a Level 2 cert. A Level I cert is probably equivalent to a bachelor's degree, Level II a masters and Level III, a PhD. The subject matter involves lots of physics, math, engineering and metallurgy. To sign off an NDT test in aerospace, one has to have a Level II cert. Some companies do MP test bolts, barrel extensions and the like but I highly doubt they are tested by certified NDT inspectors, and it means absolutely nothing IMO unless they are. It's just marketing BS.

3) I personally like it that they place the customer standing in front of them at a higher priority than a ringing phone.

4) Sorry to rain on anybody's parade thinking they have the most battle hardened milspec piece of kit...
 

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The BATF has been purposely slowing down the efficiency of their background checks/4473. What used to take 10-15 minutes in now taking theee fold that. A small shop with one owner can be tied up on a phone, often on hold, for the majority of his or her day. F Obama and anti govt with a iron pipe straight up their ass.
 

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Some random thoughts:

1) If you would have ordered from their website you'd have the items by now.

2) NOBODY is mag particle inspecting bargain priced sporting type barrels. Sorry. They just aren't. That process alone will add $75 to the price of a barrel in and of itself and would constitute a serious choke on delivering product by the manufacturers. And I highly doubt the top tier barrels are either unless it's a military contract production run. For the MP test to mean anything at all each and every barrel has to be tested. A spot check every so often is utterly meaningless. NDT can't be done by just any trained monkey making $12 an hour either. ASNT certifications aren't easy to get, they take a lot of time, effort and OJT to get a Level 2 cert. A Level I cert is probably equivalent to a bachelor's degree, Level II a masters and Level III, a PhD. The subject matter involves lots of physics, math, engineering and metallurgy. To sign off an NDT test in aerospace, one has to have a Level II cert. Some companies do MP test bolts, barrel extensions and the like but I highly doubt they are tested by certified NDT inspectors, and it means absolutely nothing IMO unless they are. It's just marketing BS.

3) I personally like it that they place the customer standing in front of them at a higher priority than a ringing phone.

4) Sorry to rain on anybody's parade thinking they have the most battle hardened milspec piece of kit...

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Some random thoughts:


2) NOBODY is mag particle inspecting bargain priced sporting type barrels. Sorry. They just aren't. That process alone will add $75 to the price of a barrel in and of itself and would constitute a serious choke on delivering product by the manufacturers. And I highly doubt the top tier barrels are either unless it's a military contract production run. For the MP test to mean anything at all each and every barrel has to be tested. A spot check every so often is utterly meaningless. NDT can't be done by just any trained monkey making $12 an hour either. ASNT certifications aren't easy to get, they take a lot of time, effort and OJT to get a Level 2 cert. A Level I cert is probably equivalent to a bachelor's degree, Level II a masters and Level III, a PhD. The subject matter involves lots of physics, math, engineering and metallurgy. To sign off an NDT test in aerospace, one has to have a Level II cert. Some companies do MP test bolts, barrel extensions and the like but I highly doubt they are tested by certified NDT inspectors, and it means absolutely nothing IMO unless they are. It's just marketing BS.


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Well I learned something new here....
 

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Yes I may be wrong. They may in fact pay someone $12 an hour to look for things that look like cracks which means not a thing to me. But I guarantee that if they do, which I doubt, they aren't certified and don't truly know what they are doing past what the company paying them tells them to look for. It costs serious money to maintain ASNT certifications and if you are making $100 AR barrels it just ain't gonna happen. Those making stuff for government contracts that require testing almost certainly send their stuff out to a certified lab to be tested. I know because I used to be in charge of keeping one of them up to date and in compliance.
 

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Well in all fairness, you could just trust that their very reasonably priced parts are a good value. If you need more of a reputation you just have to spend more money. Probably a lot more for the actual difference in quality or usefulness.

Seems kind harsh to have a problem with their parts that you don't want. I look at it as a shop that took the time to find a way to stock parts locally for a great price and would bet that they are a good value. Just my opinion.
Yeah I mean we dont ask where Ford or Chevy get their parts from? Why are guns so different? We also trust manufactures of other industries to know what they are doing to buy parts from manufactures that work and have the best value to them. I just dont get why firearms are put to such a higher standard. An unreasonable standard in my opinion.
 

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