Oklahoma Execution Botched

[Spec ops Grunt]

The doublethink that pro death penalty people have is astounding.

 

[uncle money bags]

The doublethink that pro death penalty people have is astounding.

Go on...

 

[SMS]

In my opinion, the problem isn't so much the judicial system or the current state of the government. The true deterrent to crime and truly benefiting out nation lies completely in our parental system. If everyone didn't get a trophy, the difference between right and wrong instilled in our children, a hard day's work ethic and genuine concern for your neighbor was focused on; we wouldn't need the death penalty. However, we know this doesn't happen and for those who don't understand how to be a decent human being and not torture and murder their fellow man, they get the death penalty. We shouldn't set them free or banish them to become someone else's problem, they should be sent to be judged by their maker.

I mostly agree there...I just don't think the death penalty is serving as any sort of an example for those who are the result of failed upbringing, broken minds, misquided souls, or just plain evil.

 

[Spec ops Grunt]

The condemned man had the benefit of YEARS of a trial and representation by attorneys. This is a system put into place by men in government so as to afford the criminal "due process." What due process was afforded his victims? What attorney was there at the crime scene to advise the perpetrators or defend the victim?

The Bible also teaches that we are to follow the laws of government, but do you really think that God will tolerate those that have knowingly and willingly aborted unborn babies? Was there any "legal representation" and appeals process available to them?

Perhaps we should go back to firing squads and hanging.

Oh, and for those "chastising" Christians, how do you know the people to whom you are writing are Christians?

Yeah cause the other systems put in place by men in government are so great.

 

[SlugSlinger]

Cnn has now picked up this story.......I have a feeling this is going to be a sh1t storm

Right on time. Anything to protect the innocent.

 

[uncle money bags]

The doublethink that pro death penalty people have is astounding.

Yeah cause the other systems put in place by men in government are so great.

So far this has been the sum total of your contribution to this thread. Some of us would enjoy hearing what you really think, without the passive aggressive slant.

 

[kennedy]

I mostly agree there...I just don't think the death penalty is serving as any sort of an example for those who are the result of failed upbringing, broken minds, misquided souls, or just plain evil.

It's not. But we can't just release them back into society. If you want to imprison them for life, that's fine. I suggest everyone who is against the death penalty and insists on life imprisonment, let them pick up that bill and the rest of us not have to pay the bill. If you really want to see people's true beliefs, send them the bill. Watch how many want to change their views. By the way, I'm not implying this is you in any way.

 

[druryj]

I dont disagree Mr. RidgeHunter. Perhaps hanging, electrocution, or beheading would be more humane. In my opinion the major problem with the death penalty is its inconsistent application rather than the method.

A single well placed bullet to the temple would be fast, cheap, and efficient.

 

[penismightier]

Not really. At least one can argue that the intent of the military is national self-defense. Policy decisions and utilization arguments aside.

No one can argue that the death penalty, after the fact, of a individual in-custody is self-defense.

Vengeance, Revenge, Reckoning? Sure, I guess. But I think stripping them of their identities and casting them out is a better solution.

Your argument doesn't fly. You are saying that the gov't has the right to kill people, but only when defending itself? It is either they have the right or they don't. You're trying to separate military caused homicide vs govt caused homicide.... Guess what.... Its the same thing!! The government killing people!!

And you can't argue that bombing the **** out of someone thousands of miles away is self defense! You can't justify killing someone for something that they may do! At least these guys have been tried and convicted in a court..... instead of pushing a button on a keyboard and blowing up whole towns.... killing whoever, without any due process!






Don't get the wrong idea, I fully support the military and capital punishment, I'm just trying to show the problem with your argument.

 

[SMS]

Sorry Penism...you're argument is the one not flyin'....

Execution, after the fact, of a restrained in imprisoned individual as a form of revenge is not the same thing as prosecuting a war against a willful opponent in self defense. Like I said, individual policy decisions and implementation of military force aside. The primary purpose of the military is self-defense. Execution is not.

I'm still not even sure what your position is. Execution is OK because the military bombs people? It's not OK that the military bombs people but execution is OK?