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You can fill up the next 100 pages with the same articles from the same sources all you want, but until you UNDERSTAND how cell replication occurs, how RNA and DNA translation and transcription works you're simply only able to post articles with headlines/article titles that you can understand that sides with your narrative.

You've provided so much opposing evidence or "no evidence to support" articles that you're disproving yourself and don't even know it. In post #3095, the highlighted article that says at the very beginning

"However, mRNA is often promulgated on the grounds of the popular
opinion that when using mRNA, unlike DNA, the stringent gene-therapy regulations are bypassed
because mRNA does not integrate into the host genome."

Do you know that sentence means in a "pseudoscientific" research article?

gotta respectfully disagree .. the paper above was published by UK gov. I've posted technical articles from a number of different sources. news articles fall under a different bar than technical white papers. I've provided actual evidence for each and every article posted. videos posted credibility are based upon reputation of speaker(s).

this is from the NIH technical white paper that I've posted several time since evidently no one has bothered to check it out. what I've been posting is dead on the money.

below shows mechanism of action of mRNA vaccines. which is why I've posted it to begin with.
apologies for all the repeat, it was purely to highlight okcbob's refusal to acknowledge the nature article he posted had nothing, zero to with what he claimed.

this technical white paper from NIH covers similar challenges facing pharma scientists.
which are problems with how fragile mRNA, etc. etc. below white paper predates Nature article and covers a slew of topics that got politically incorrect after C19. note Jan 28, 2020 date of article

hence why this technical paper included sections on mRNA "vaccine" is really not a vaccine and called it gene therapy.

everything above is from me typing from memory. now do you think it's possible for anyone to type everything above and NOT understand said technical white paper?

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from your post in above quote ..
"However, mRNA is often promulgated on the grounds of the popular
opinion that when using mRNA, unlike DNA, the stringent gene-therapy regulations are bypassed
because mRNA does not integrate into the host genome."

Do you know that sentence means in a "pseudoscientific" research article?
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gotta disagree above is pseudoscience .. if you read the rest of paragraph. it's calling mRNA "vaccine" gene therapy. this is from a peer review technical white paper on NIH. not claiming it's perfect, but far from pseudoscience. which again is really valuable due it's publish date predating C19 hysteria, when mRNA "vaccine" gene therapy was targeting cancer, infectious diseases, etc.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32013049/
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4923/12/2/102/pdf

below is from page 8 of above pdf
pharmaceutics-12-00102-g001-550.jpg


Figure 1. Mechanism of action of mRNA vaccines. 1. The mRNA is in vitro transcribed (IVT) from a DNA template in a cell-free system. 2. IVT mRNA is subsequently transfected into dendritic cells (DCs) via (3) endocytosis. 4. Entrapped mRNA undergoes endosomal escape and is released into the cytosol. 5. Using the translational machinery of host cells (ribosomes), the mRNA is translated into antigenic proteins. The translated antigenic protein undergoes post-translational modification and can act in the cell where it is generated. 6. Alternatively, the protein is secreted from the host cell. 7. Antigen protein is degraded by the proteasome in the cytoplasm. The generated antigenic peptide epitopes are transported into the endoplasmic reticulum and loaded onto major histocompatibility complex (MHC) class I molecules (MHC I). 8. The loaded MHC I-peptide epitope complexes are presented on the surface of cells, eventually leading to the induction of antigen-specific CD8+ T cell responses after T-cell receptor recognition and appropriate co-stimulation. 9. Exogenous proteins are taken up DCs. 10. They are degraded in endosomes and presented via the MHC II pathway. Moreover, to obtain cognate T-cell help in antigen-presenting cells, the protein should be routed through the MHC II pathway. 11. The generated antigenic peptide epitopes are subsequently loaded onto MHC II molecules. 12. The loaded MHC II-peptide epitope complexes are presented on the surface of cells, leading to the induction of the antigen-specific CD4+ T cell responses. Exogenous antigens can also be processed and loaded onto MHC class I molecules via a mechanism known as cross-presentation (not shown in the figure). The figure was created with BioRender.com.
 
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gotta respectfully disagree .. the paper above was published by UK gov. I've posted technical articles from a number of different sources. news articles fall under a different bar than technical white papers. I've provided actual evidence for each and every article posted. videos posted credibility are based upon reputation of speaker(s).

this is from the NIH technical white paper that I've posted several time since evidently no one has bothered to check it out. what I've been posting is dead on the money.

below shows mechanism of action of mRNA vaccines. which is why I've posted it to begin with.
apologies for all the repeat, it was purely to highlight okcbob's refusal to acknowledge the nature article he posted had nothing, zero to with what he claimed.

this technical white paper from NIH covers similar challenges facing pharma scientists.
which are problems with how fragile mRNA, etc. etc. below white paper predates Nature article and covers a slew of topics that got politically incorrect after C19. note Jan 28, 2020 date of article

hence why this technical paper included sections on mRNA "vaccine" is really not a vaccine and called it gene therapy.

everything above is from me typing from memory. now do you think it's possible for anyone to type everything above and NOT understand said technical white paper?

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4923/12/2/102/pdf

below is from page 8 of above pdf
pharmaceutics-12-00102-g001-550.jpg


Figure 1. Mechanism of action of mRNA vaccines. 1. The mRNA is in vitro transcribed (IVT) from a DNA template in a cell-free system. 2. IVT mRNA is subsequently transfected into dendritic cells (DCs) via (3) endocytosis. 4. Entrapped mRNA undergoes endosomal escape and is released into the cytosol. 5. Using the translational machinery of host cells (ribosomes), the mRNA is translated into antigenic proteins. The translated antigenic protein undergoes post-translational modification and can act in the cell where it is generated. 6. Alternatively, the protein is secreted from the host cell. 7. Antigen protein is degraded by the proteasome in the cytoplasm. The generated antigenic peptide epitopes are transported into the endoplasmic reticulum and loaded onto major histocompatibility complex (MHC) class I molecules (MHC I). 8. The loaded MHC I-peptide epitope complexes are presented on the surface of cells, eventually leading to the induction of antigen-specific CD8+ T cell responses after T-cell receptor recognition and appropriate co-stimulation. 9. Exogenous proteins are taken up DCs. 10. They are degraded in endosomes and presented via the MHC II pathway. Moreover, to obtain cognate T-cell help in antigen-presenting cells, the protein should be routed through the MHC II pathway. 11. The generated antigenic peptide epitopes are subsequently loaded onto MHC II molecules. 12. The loaded MHC II-peptide epitope complexes are presented on the surface of cells, leading to the induction of the antigen-specific CD4+ T cell responses. Exogenous antigens can also be processed and loaded onto MHC class I molecules via a mechanism known as cross-presentation (not shown in the figure). The figure was created with BioRender.com.


Yes I do, people recite things they believe to be true daily.
 

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Yes I do, people recite things they believe to be true daily.

when this mess was started by okcbob .. I stated early on that I had exact zero interest in mRNA effecting DNA. virtually everything I've posted recently in this thread are from brand new to me research. what I go by is where ever actual evidence leads me to.

for instance I spent a solid two hours on the technical white paper posted by okcbob. after about 30 pages and no where near end. it was clear, said nature paper had zero to do with what okcbob claimed.

my primary interest is to warn folks of the dangers of using mRNA "vaccine" which is NOT a vaccine. gene therapy would be more accurate. loads of unknown risks since extended animal trials has been skipped in a rush to bring mRNA "vaccine" to market.

listening to acknowledged experts in this field posted in videos earlier. they consistently deliver the same message of warning folks NOT to take an unproven "vaccine" until extended animal trials prove it's safe.
it's simply NOT possible to properly test anything for long term side effects for a brand new mRNA "vaccine" only 9 months old.

don't take everything in meme literally below ..
for sure you are more likely to die from mRNA "vaccine" than C19 which has a 99.9 survival rate and easily treatable with OTC meds. but meds has to be started early to allow meds to shut down viral replication. I'd much rather get C19, then take a new unproven mRNA gene therapy.

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He just doesn’t get it. He keeps posting the same articles over & over, but doesn’t understand the science/subject matter. Anyone who spends two solid hrs on a post from someone else on here needs professional help. Really? Two hrs?? What kind of life does he live? I didn’t spend that much time on one article when I was in grad school.The additional posts only serve to lessen his credibility. Nobody is reading them anymore. Look at the comments. When another subject for debate comes up, he may have a good point, but it will have the stigma of the author. This ongoing debate is no longer about the topic, it’s now about him.
 
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He just doesn’t get it. He keeps posting the same articles over & over, but doesn’t understand the science/subject matter. Anyone who spends two solid hrs on a post from someone else on here needs professional help. Really? Two hrs?? What kind of life does he live? I didn’t spend that much time on one article when I was in grad school.The additional posts only serve to lessen his credibility. Nobody is reading them anymore. Look at the comments. When another subject for debate comes up, he may have a good point, but it will have the stigma of the author. This ongoing debate is no longer about the topic, it’s now about him.

perhaps it's you that doesn't understand the science/subject matter. this is based upon me posting info that's dead on the money and your mistake in posting up articles that has nothing to do with what you claimed. . anyone that can't see that .. really doesn't understand and that's OK.

yes I've now spent hours and hours of research on topic of mRNA "vaccine", which is NOT a vaccine aka gene therapy.
which I'm now just getting started posting dangers of taking an unproven gene therapy. its a fact NO one in the world knows what long term side effects are from taking mRNA "vaccines" aka gene therapy.

Oh no! You mean the manufactured cure is less effective than the 99.95% effectiveness of your god-given immune system... and possibly makes things worse?!

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Top Medical Inventor: COVID mRNA “Vaccine” Not A Vaccine
 
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More BS. Now you think you’re an SME, lol, but it looks like more antivaxxer nonsense that no one pays attention to anymore. People have stopped reading your posts. Look at the comments. Your reputation will take a long time to repair. I genuinely hope you don’t get sick with covid. I’ve talked to lots of antivaxxer patients in the ICU that regret not taking this pandemic seriously. Good luck.
 

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You can fill up the next 100 pages with the same articles from the same sources all you want, but until you UNDERSTAND how cell replication occurs, how RNA and DNA translation and transcription works you're simply only able to post articles with headlines/article titles that you can understand that sides with your narrative.

You've provided so much opposing evidence or "no evidence to support" articles that you're disproving yourself and don't even know it. In post #3095, the highlighted article that says at the very beginning

"However, mRNA is often promulgated on the grounds of the popular
opinion that when using mRNA, unlike DNA, the stringent gene-therapy regulations are bypassed
because mRNA does not integrate into the host genome."

Do you know that sentence means in a "pseudoscientific" research article?
Then do explain.
Even Dr. Shiva said they only inderstand 2% of DNA. Tell me how you and bob are so much further along in science.
LMMFAO.
Your not at all.
 

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More BS. Now you think you’re an SME, lol, but it looks like more antivaxxer nonsense that no one pays attention to anymore. People have stopped reading your posts. Look at the comments. Your reputation will take a long time to repair. I genuinely hope you don’t get sick with covid. I’ve talked to lots of antivaxxer patients in the ICU that regret not taking this pandemic seriously. Good luck.
Your reputation is taking a Schit as well. Your not going to win with CY as long as hes posting this stuff he will continue like a dog on a fresh coon trail. And I do read his post, make my own determination and move on. Give it a rest after all. He said hes past DNA discussions.
And be a little more respectful with your stereotyping. I'm not an antivaxxer, I am skeptical though, of anything the Gov. is pushing down my throat. Being skeptical has played in my favor over the years.
 
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