Wind Turbine Fail: Texas Grid Operator Begs Texans to Turn Off Appliances During Peak Hours to Avoid Rolling Blackouts Amid Heat Wave,Very Low Winds

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Do you know if the turbines use the electricity IT produced or does it come from an external source? I'll ask since others have difficulty putting a full question/sentence together.

I think I read the same article. If the turbine creates it's own electricity, then I don't see the argument/conspiracy.
they get power off of the grid just like everyone else but if there is a meter i have never seen one. the air conditioners are screaming on them in this heat and the blades don't turn.
 

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Like cowadle said, they get the electricity to power all their systems from the grid. And I've not been able to find a source that says how much they consume. That's one of the arguments against how much power they produce. It takes a lot of electricity to power the systems on these turbines and that's not reported in the "net power produced" figures regarding how much these turbines generate. Obviously you'd need to subtract the power they use from the grid from the amount of power they produce to get an accurate measurement of their usefulness.
 

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I'm not certain about this but it seems to me these turbines would need to be rotated to keep the shafts and other parts from becoming damaged from the extreme weight they're subjected to. For the same reason some larger ships keep propeller shafts rotating slowly when not underway. I forget what this is called but I know it's a thing for large, shaft-driven machinery. That would take power, too, in addition to cooling, power for lights, etc...
 

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77*!?!?! That's like Death Valley in the Summer. 70* during the day only because my wife gets chilly but at night going to bed it's down to 65*. If I sleep warm I don't get a good sleep.
Cannot fathom your electric bill. We're 74 daytime, 73 nighttime.
 

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I'm not certain about this but it seems to me these turbines would need to be rotated to keep the shafts and other parts from becoming damaged from the extreme weight they're subjected to. For the same reason some larger ships keep propeller shafts rotating slowly when not underway. I forget what this is called but I know it's a thing for large, shaft-driven machinery. That would take power, too, in addition to cooling, power for lights, etc...
they have huge problems with harmonic vibrations eating the gearboxes and bearings and i am not sure what it is called but similar to helicopters. and the cvt transmissions are problematic because of the slow speed input transferred to 1800 rpm for the generator
 

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Last week we drove up route 3 to Kingfisher and only about 10% of the turbines in both wind farms were rotating and a couple of em looked like a wilted flower with the blades all folded up and hanging down.......and l agree we were sold a bill of goods on these with a 20 year service life vs cost of manufacturing, installation and disposing of em when they are worn out
 

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