Pistol Brace "rules" signed by AG today

[HillsideDesolate]

 

[Perplexed]

Now that the rule has been dropped, SAF et. al vs. BATFE regarding arm braces can resume. With the recent decisions made to curb ATF’s arbitrary expansions of the rules, the case will have more teeth to put the kibosh on ATF.

 

[OKNewshawk]

I think getting SBR stamps for free is great. I wish I had a few pistols with braces.

CHANGE MY MIND

Pros:
You get a free tax stamp.
Cons:
The "SBR" must be registered by an individual--it cannot be added to a trust.
Once registered, you cannot take it out of the state of registry without AFT permission.
Once registered, the tax stamp holder is the only one who can handle the firearm (excepting a registered FFL or gunsmith, I presume.)
Once registered, the AFT knows what you have and where you have it.

I don't know about you but the cons outweigh the pros on this one. I would wait until we see how the court challenges fare. I've already noticed a few places where they may have left themselves wide open to having the rule, if not the entire NFA, struck down as unconstitutional.

 

[O4L]

It could take years for the court rulings to come down.

I'm trying to figure out the best strategy for the next 120 days.

 

[Duncandl]

Measure from the center of the trigger to the center of the shoulder device fully extended I believe.

 

[Duncandl]

Then using the length chart the atf uses the measurement will be assigned a point value between 0 - 4.

 

[sh00ter]

Correct me if I am wrong but can't people already order short uppers and such legally as long as they do not assemble to a lower? If so, then that would seem to indicate that removing their brace and not using it unless they are deemed acceptable in the future is the same thing? Same thing for a pistol chassis or something...can someone own the piece of plastic (again airsoft being a good example) and either not use it, or use with a non-real gun such as BB or airsoft? The whole thing just seems so ambiguous, are there any OSA attorneys in the house or does anyone have one they can ask/recommend for questions so these guys in this thread can stop sweating bullets LOL.

 

[Duncandl]

When I started on my SBR adventure I was told owning any of the pieces to assemble the SBR before receiving the stamp was also illegal as it showed intent without approval.

From what I have read, which isn’t enough, it sounds like anything other than a pistol buffer tube that can’t be adjusted is going to be the key.

 

[BobbyV]

Why would they care? They get to enforce the rule for however long until it gets shut down in court years later, and defend it in court on your tax dime.

I understand that the agency doesn't care and were doing whatever Joe Biden told Dettelbach to do. The point was what does it take for an agency/administration to learn a lesson after several court cases go against their idiotic agendas. I was questioning why they felt they had this authority after it was shown they don't in the EPA decision.

 

[BobbyV]

From what I have read, which isn’t enough, it sounds like anything other than a pistol buffer tube that can’t be adjusted is going to be the key.

This is what I meant in one of my earlier posts. If folks are concerned about this issue, but don't want to jump through the hoops and do something not very smart (in my opinion) like send them pictures of your AR pistols and submit the info for their registry right now, they just need to get a normal pistol buffer.