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Discussion in 'Sports' started by kwaynem, Jan 7, 2019.
I really wish y'all would spell out "Alabama."
Every time I see "Bama," I think "Obama."
And I'm gettin' tired of pukin'...
I’m calling your bluff on this one, If you took any of BVs OU defenses and put it with this OU offense, they would be unstoppable. OU Clemson would have been a hell of a game last night. God I remember back in 09, teams were lucky to score in the 20s... It’s unfair to pin that USC game on him, if I remember correctly, OU turned it over 5 times... One of stoops’ biggest mistakes was forcing BV out to bring in his brother.
I really enjoyed see Alabama being outclassed, getting their asses kicked for a full 60 minutes, embarrassed, humiliated, mud holes stomped in their behinds, and proving that Tua-whatever did not deserve the Heisman. It was fun watching Saban cuss and shake his head. That beat down could not have happened to a more deserving group of people.
It was a very good day for College Football.
Well hindsight may have proven you correct and I agree with most of this.
What I remember about that OU-USC game was Norm Chow and Leinart shredding BV's boringly predictable "prevent" defense. They made it look easy except they did have one receiver that if Leinart would have threw the ball to the opposite end of the field he'd still have caught it. ML didn't even have to look, just heave it up in the air somewhere, because that guy was gonna catch it. He was having one of those nights, I'll give them that.
That OU trademark "prevent" defense. The question to me remains, was it mandated by Bob? Bob sure got conservative in his later years. When he left it seemed to continue on defense, so I'm thinking no. Mike didn't return to his early methodology of trying to kill every player on the opponent's squad. That's the defense I saw in Mike's 1st tour and he largely did it with Blake's players. During Mike's 1st tour, OU's defense looked like Clemson's did the other night. When he returned from AZ he pretty much picked up where BV left off and continued on with it. The question is why? Was he just not as good as BV? Was he told to run the exact schemes as BV? Possibly, but we'll never truly know.
Yeah I see where you are coming from. I think the x-factor then is that it's less about Xs and Os and more about Jimmy and Joe's. Oklahoma is a program that can pull in the best of the best and compete for the best on an annual basis. So BV (and staff) must be much better at evaluating young talent and then is a rockstar recruiter when they lock in on a guy. Look back at the defenders back in those years and y'all had some studs. Down lineman that would pressure the QB without sending a blitz, CBs that would be okay on an island because they were the most physical people on the field. Now I am not blind to the fact that the game is evolving, rules are changing, everything is flowing to the offense. I also know that when you have an offense as dominate as OU, your defense will suffer due the volume of snaps and quick reps. When you score in 5 plays and 1:32, it doesn't leave a lot of time for your defense to catch its breath. All that said, I feel that Clemsons defense throughout the season looked like OUs used to both in schemes and players. Maybe Grinch can turn it around for you, I hope not ...
Lots of truth in here and it's one of the biggest reasons that it's been so damn frustrating. I wouldn't call this year's OU D-Line substandard by any means. Those guys have been getting after it all year. When they did get a sack or tackle for loss it was on them. I don't remember what player or even what game, it may have been in the first Texas game, but one of them got the play call from the sideline and he was like..REALLY? You could tell he didn't agree with the call, but he went and lined up and when the ball was snapped you knew exactly why he didn't like it.
In the Alabama game they had to move Norwood to safety because they had nobody else. They've been thin in the back all year, but that's no reason to play off 10-12 yards on every single play which is about what they did all year.
Somehow and some way the whole defensive "business plan" dried on the vine at OU over the last few years. Hopefully that's changed now.
They've been doing it so long that I almost don't notice it anymore. It was just frustrating to watch them start their coverage behind the first down marker; if you're beyond the marker at the snap, how do you plan on stopping them short of it? I understand not wanting to get beat deep, but if you're playing so far off the receiver that they're going down the field in 10-15 yard increments, are you really gaining anything?
If they were blitzing 6 or 7 it would be different. But nope. Mike was only lining up 3 most of the time.
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I was at that game.... I drove 24hrs to see that dumpster fire LOL.