I remember watching that. But, has it actually happened?
To answer your question, no: I am not aware of any such on campus.I remember watching that. But, has it actually happened?
I would be worried about being misidentified by another CCW holder, especially if I have to fire on the bad guy, and the CCW holder didn't observe the whole situation.That was a question that was brought up when I was part of the Students for Concealed Carry on Campus.
"What if you are misidentified by responding LE?"
To answer your question, no: I am not aware of any such on campus.
Did anyone catch the major flaw in the video?
I would be worried about being misidentified by another CCW holder, especially if I have to fire on the bad guy, and the CCW holder didn't observe the whole situation.
Lots of folks in our society today "don't want to get involved".... and criminals know this.
What's the saying about evil triumphing because good men do nothing?
To answer your question, no: I am not aware of any such on campus.
Did anyone catch the major flaw in the video?
The bolded text in red was what I was getting at. The others are all good points--excellent points, in fact--but this will rarely be the case in real-life incidents. The cops knew who they were going after."the"????
The only valid info is that someone who has little to no training with their gun/holster and little to no mental preparation stands little to no chance against a highly trained and well informed swat member who also has the element of surprise. Not a surprising result.
One major flaw - the "bad guy" was a trained instructor. Not the typical bad guy we've seen in these. Should have used one of the other "test subjects" to play the bad guy. They would have better represented the type of shooter we've *actually* seen.
Another - the "bad guy" appeared to know that there would be someone with a gun. Worse, it appeared they knew who had the gun. Both of which aren't true either. These events happen in places where there is little to no expectation of armed resistance.
Valid point. Same answer.
To answer your question, no: I am not aware of any such on campus.
Did anyone catch the major flaw in the video?
Yes; I agree with you but we spoke of specific flaws in their methodology, and your post while the vast majority here agree with it, addressed ideological concerns. Valid? Of course, but the majority of the public when they watch stuff like this, see police telling us that we'll for sure and for certain get killed if we use a gun to stop a mass shooter. And since the police are all experts when it comes to guns*, we should do as they tell us. Most of the time, John Q won't see past this silliness unless he is pretty strongly pro-gun.The "flaw" was that this video is a full-retard, anti-gun propaganda piece. There wasn't a single valid premise to the entire setup from start to finish.
The bolded text in red was what I was getting at. The others are all good points--excellent points, in fact--but this will rarely be the case in real-life incidents. The cops knew who they were going after.
So, to use this as 'proof' that CCW won't help in mass shootings, is very dishonest.
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